[Histonet] RE: IHC and State requirements

Fri Sep 14 12:10:52 CDT 2007

BUSTED,
it was my toe

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From: "Edwards, R.E." <ree3 <@t> leicester.ac.uk>
To: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>; "Rene J Buesa" <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>; 
"Patricia Adams" <alaskagirl1950 <@t> yahoo.com>; "Bernice Frederick" 
<b-frederick <@t> northwestern.edu>; "HistoNet" 
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: IHC and State requirements

Experiences?,or  was  it  your  toe, Joe?.

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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Nocito
Sent: 13 September 2007 17:17
To: Rene J Buesa; Patricia Adams; Bernice Frederick; HistoNet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: IHC and State requirements

to add to Rene's statement. My degrees, titles and experiences got my foot 
in the door, but it was my experiences that kept me there.

JTT
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From: "Rene J Buesa" <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
To: "Patricia Adams" <alaskagirl1950 <@t> yahoo.com>; "Bernice Frederick"
<b-frederick <@t> northwestern.edu>; "HistoNet"
<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: IHC and State requirements

> That is exactly my contention in an article I just finished about wages in
> histology.
>  When you apply to a job, or negotiate your salary, you are not applying
> as part of a group or class, you are negotiating your personal salary and
> your experience and abilities are personal, particular, independent of
> that of others, with or without a title.
>  From all the people I have supervised I have had the best amongst those
> with lower academic levels, and, viceversa!
>  The title and the studies qualify you for a title, but does not
> habilitate you for the tasks!
> René J.
>
> Patricia Adams <alaskagirl1950 <@t> yahoo.com> wrote:
>  I am a HT, but have been doing IHC since it was
> manual, doing up to 15 different antibodies at a
> time and kept it all straight in my head. I am
> not sure that having an HLT would have helped
> with that. So where do some of us "older" techs
> fit into the scheme of things. How do we let the
> people hiring know that even though we do not
> have the title, we know what we are doing?
> Patricia
> --- Bernice Frederick
> wrote:
>
>> Hazel,
>> I agree with you- I know people who are
>> grandfathered and took the exam.
>> I've met one person who helped create the HTL
>> certification requirements.
>> I'm just an HTL but do agree that some have the
>> HTL but only know basic
>> histo. I know of some institutions where an HTL
>> is preferred when it comes
>> to IHC (based on the BS). My pet peeve is
>> post-docs that think they know
>> everything but can't comprehend histo and
>> thinek they can do microtomy. We
>> require certification for those people that are
>> cutting blocks that are
>> human cancer trial specimens (a long story)
>> Bernice
>>
>> Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
>> Northwestern University
>> Pathology Core Facility
>> 710 N Fairbanks Court
>> Olson 8-421
>> Chicago,IL 60611
>> 312-503-3723
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>>
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
>> On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel
>> V
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:54 AM
>> To: Kim Tournear;
>> histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: IHC and State
>> requirements
>>
>> Being grandfathered in did not mean they just
>> gave you the title of HTL.
>> The grandfathered HTL's had to pass the tests
>> just like anyone else!
>>
>> Hazel Horn
>> Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP)
>> Supervisor of Histology
>> Arkansas Children's Hospital
>> 800 Marshall Slot 820
>> Little Rock, AR 72202
>>
>> phone 501.364.4240
>> fax 501.364.3912
>>
>> visit us on the web at: www.archildrens.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>>
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
>> On Behalf Of Kim
>> Tournear
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:27 AM
>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: [Histonet] RE: IHC and State
>> requirements
>>
>> Hi Michelle,
>> A lot employers will except either HT or HTL.
>> And of course, how much
>> experience you have under your belt is also a
>> big consideration. I
>> think a lot of employers are finding out just
>> how hard it is to find
>> techs (registered or not) that can do the job
>> and do it well, although
>> there are a few states with their own state
>> requirements which would
>> require the tech to be ASCP certified either
>> way.
>>
>> I have found that being an HTL vs HT doesn't
>> necessarily mean that one
>> or the other can do the job better...I know a
>> few HTL's that were
>> grandfathered in and have done only a handful
>> IHCs in their whole
>> career, can't trouble shoot anything, and
>> produce poor quality slides
>> and yet they hold the title of an HTL and the
>> same goes for the
>> HTs...(makes you wonder how they keep a
>> job)...LOL....and I have taught
>> and worked with students right out of college
>> programs that were
>> absolutely awesome and knew their stuff....go
>> figure.....I say go for
>> it.....Good Luck....
>>
>>
>> Kim Tournear, HT (ASCP), QIHC ( ASCP)
>> Specialists in Dermatology
>> Histology/Mohs Supervisor
>> Tucson, AZ
>>
>>
>>
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