[Histonet] Microwaves VENDOR RESPONSE

Wed Sep 5 11:48:42 CDT 2007

are you sure it's the willies and not the johnnies?
Since the magnetron or whatever it was that fried my tissue, I'd wait for 
the traditional processing. Call me a dinosaur, but I really don't like 
doing special stains in the microwave. The only thing I use a microwave for 
at my house is to defrost and reheat stuff (technical term). I'm sure there 
are people out there who can cook a 6 course gourmet meal. My best friend 
can process all types of tissue from biopsies to uterus.
    As a matter of fact, he was there grossing when something went wrong and 
told me that he's never seen tissue like that before.

JTT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil McArdle" <PMcArdle <@t> ebsciences.com>
To: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>
Cc: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Microwaves VENDOR RESPONSE


> Hi Joe:
>
> No argument there. I'm painfully aware of both a mindset of "a microwave 
> 'should' cost less than $100," and of a dearth of funding for pathology in 
> general (popular shows like CSI to the contrary). :-) I'd still suggest 
> that $1749 is a heck of a lot better (and a lot less laughable) than the 
> $18,000 or $30,000 that's widely quoted and posted, and it's the exact 
> reason we brought an under-$2000 lab microwave to market in the first 
> place.
>
> One could argue just as convincingly against all kinds of specialized 
> equipment or reagents on the basis of cost, not just microwaves. We all 
> know of everything from saliva to cheap rice steamers being used in histo 
> labs, and while they may actually be perfectly serviceable, from the 
> standpoint of repeatability or liability, this kind of thing gives me the 
> willies (and that's a technical term). My yardstick is always "what would 
> I be comfortable with if my kid's diagnosis hung in the balance?"
>
> Healthy debate is good!
>
> Phil
> -- 
> Phil McArdle
> Microwave Product Manager
>
> Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
> 29-B Kripes Rd.
> East Granby, CT 06026
>
> Tel:  800.992.9037 x 341
> Mobile: 860.597.6796
> Fax: 860.653.0422
>
> pmcardle <@t> ebsciences.com
> www.ebsciences.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Nocito wrote:
>> ok, but with the budgets today, many people can't afford a $1749 
>> microwave when they can buy one at Walmart, K-Mart, or somewhere else for 
>> $79.
>>    Not to make you angry or anything, but I'm wondering how long has it 
>> been since you worked in a lab? Histo's budget is the first one cut in 
>> the lab because we are not essential.
>> I can't count how many times I fought and fought for my budgets.
>>    If I tried to justify a $1749 microwave for special stains, HIER or 
>> whatever, I would have been laughed out the manager's office.
>>    Just my 4 cents.
>>
>> JTT
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil McArdle" 
>> <PMcArdle <@t> ebsciences.com>
>> To: "Kathleen Boozer" <BoozerKA <@t> ah.org>
>> Cc: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Microwaves VENDOR RESPONSE
>>
>>
>>> Again, a microwave vendor weighs in (so far I haven't received any 
>>> flames), so read at your own risk. :-)
>>>
>>> At the risk of sounding overly and overtly commercial, after reading 
>>> post after post of $30,000+ and $18,000 and similarly high figures for 
>>> lab microwaves, I really feel the need to set the record straight. 
>>> Depending on the usage requirements, we have laboratory microwaves as 
>>> low as $1749 for a "bare bones" model for simple operations, to 
>>> mid-priced units, to under $11,000 for a vacuum equipped microwave 
>>> processor capable of the +/- 0.5 degree C temperature control necessary 
>>> for tissue processing.
>>>
>>> (I can feel the heat already!)
>>>
>>> There are many compelling reasons to replace a kitchen microwave with a 
>>> lab model; feel free to download, read, and even share with colleagues 
>>> our Microwave Companion at
>>>
>>> http://www.ebsciences.com/pdf/EBS_MW_COMPANION.pdf
>>>
>>> Best regards, and see you at NSH,
>>>
>>> Phil McArdle
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Phil McArdle
>>> Microwave Product Manager
>>>
>>> Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
>>> 29-B Kripes Rd.
>>> East Granby, CT 06026
>>>
>>> Tel:  800.992.9037 x 341
>>> Mobile: 860.597.6796
>>> Fax: 860.653.0422
>>>
>>> pmcardle <@t> ebsciences.com
>>> www.ebsciences.com
>>>
>>> Kathleen Boozer wrote:
>>>> What is the best microwave for a small lab using it only for heating 
>>>> Bouin's and Silver Nitrate for special stains?  I just can't believe I 
>>>> would have to spend $30,000+ or slow down and use a waterbath.
>>>>
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> -- 
> Phil McArdle
> Microwave Product Manager
>
> Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
> 29-B Kripes Rd.
> East Granby, CT 06026
>
> Tel:  800.992.9037 x 341
> Mobile: 860.597.6796
> Fax: 860.653.0422
>
> pmcardle <@t> ebsciences.com
> www.ebsciences.com
>
> I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it's been.
> - Wayne Gretsky
>
> You must be the change you want to see in the world.
> - Mahatma Gandhi
>
> NOTE: This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for 
> the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may 
> contain information that is legally privileged, confidential and exempt 
> from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, however, there's 
> not a lot I can do about it, and it was probably my mistake anyway. So 
> please do the right thing and make this e-mail go away. Thank you.