[Histonet] HER2 and the 48 hour rule

Patricia Karlisch pkarlisch <@t> psu.edu
Tue Jan 23 14:26:54 CST 2007

We do a delay start and leave the specimens in formalin.  We do not
leave in 70%, xylene or paraffin for any length of time.  Pat
Pat Karlisch
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>>> "sheila adey" <sheila_adey <@t> hotmail.com> 1/23/2007 2:36 PM >>>

This prompts a new question.
I'm curious as to whether other labs that don't work weekends leave
tissues in formalin with a delayed start or do you start the processor
away and leave the tissues in Xylene as stated below?

Sheila Adey HT MLT
Port Huron Hospital

>From: Patti Loykasek <ploykasek <@t> phenopath.com>
>To: "Peterson, Dan" <1dpeterson <@t> meriter.com>,histonet 
><histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Histonet] HER2 and the 48 hour rule
>Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:06:08 -0800
>Dear Dan,
>Welcome to the new world of Her2 testing! There will definitely be
>in the lab as a result of the ASCO/CAP Her2 testing guidelines. I urge
>techs to get a copy of the guidelines and read them.
>That being said, the time in fixation is important for Her2 testing.
>heat retrieval I think that too little fixation is worse than >48
>for now we must comply with 6-48 hours. I was taught (a long time ago)
>it is best practice for the weekend schedule fixation to reflect the
>the week, and that  it is preferable to leave the tissue longer in
>That xylene would have less bad effects than longer time in formalin. 
>longer time in alcohol would be deleterious to many IHC stains, and
>recommended for Her2.
>Whatever schedule changes you decide to implement, hopefully you can
>your new schedule on some tissue before full implementation of a new
>processing schedule.
>Patti Loykasek BS, HTL, QIHC
>PhenoPath Laboratories
>Seattle, WA
> > Hello Histonetters!
> > Maybe this has been discussed before, and if it has, I apologize
> > advance, but I need a little input. Now that the CAP has mandated a
> > -48 hour window of fixation time for specimens that may have Her-2
> > performed, what are you doing about weekend specimens? We JUST
> > 25+ years) got rid of the need for techs to come in on Saturdays,
> > would like to be able to continue this trend. However if a breast
bx is
> > done at an outside account on a Thursday afternoon, and does not
> > grossed by our staff until Friday, right now a our processors are
set to
> > start up Sunday afternoon for Monday morning (Kind of over 48 hrs).
> > here are my questions:
> > Do you set up the processor to sit in 70% OH after the formalin
fix? Do
> > you let it sit in the paraffin from Saturday until Monday? (Is heat
> > prolonged?)
> > Or do I have to break the news to staff that if their name is up,
and a
> > breast bx comes in, they're coming in Saturday am?
> > We do not have a microwave processor (yet), but soon.
> > Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Daniel R Peterson HT(ASCP)
> > Histopathology Section Head
> > Meriter Laboratories
> > (608)-267-6557
> > 1dpeterson <@t> meriter.com
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