I am the only one to suggest that the real villains here are Joe's supervisors that reprimanded him for expressing his opinion? Angelos Panagopoulos Manager Pantur, Inc. 5126 East 5th Street............P.O. Box 6471 Austin, TX 78702.................Austin, TX 78762 Phone: (512) 385-6232 Fax: (512) 385-6253 e-mail: pantur <@t> aol.com