Fwd: RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
Rene J Buesa
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Fri Oct 6 12:02:37 CDT 2006
Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
To: Patsy Ruegg <pruegg <@t> ihctech.net>
Patsy:
I use "HT" as an abbreviation for "histotech" wehich is easier to write.
Any State, with licensure requirements, "grandfathered" those working in histology that were required by the State to have a State licensure to work. That is the "grandfathering" I am referring to. Those States that even today do not require their HTs to have a State license did not have to do that. I am not writing about the ASCP HT licensure!
But to the question: do you think we are 49,000?; more?; less?
René J.
Patsy Ruegg <pruegg <@t> ihctech.net> wrote:
Rene,
I have never heard of anyone being "grandfathered" in as an HT. Perhaps you
are speaking of when the HTL certification first began around 1980? At that
time if you were a certified HT with so many years of experience (?10) you
could be grandfathered in as an HTL without having the required BS degree,
but I believe you still had to take the HTL exam. ASCP certifies HT/HTL's
and they do have an eligibility route which may include OJT but everyone has
to take the exam to be called an HT. I know there are plenty of people
working and doing a good job who do not have the certification from ASCP, so
why don't they just try to take the exam and get the certification?
Allowing anyone doing histology work to be called an HT would I believe
diminish the significance of those of us who have bothered to be recognized
as professionally certified by ASCP. Medical technology is a field that is
regulated requiring that those in laboratory medicine be certified to do the
test for patients that matter so much in their health care. Would you want
just anybody performing such tests on you or your loved ones?
Patsy
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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:19 AM
To: LuAnn Anderson; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
Well I think we have been "flamming" since yesterday!
Have a nice weekend!
René J.
LuAnn Anderson wrote:
Don't have a clue. How's this for "flaming Fridays"????? :o)
At 10:36 AM 10/6/2006, Rene J Buesa wrote:
LuAnn:
I write "HT" because it has less letters than writing "histotech", no
reference to the "Histotechnician" ASCP title. It is just easier to type!
But again: with that in mind: what do you think: are we 49,000?; less?'
more?
René J.
LuAnn Anderson wrote:
I never said nor did I imply that people who are not certified are not
capable of doing a good job. I know very well that they can--I have trained
many myself. I simply said that if you are asking for the number of "HT's"
then you would need to be counting those certified--just because one is
doing histology does not give them the title of HT--technically one must
pass the registry to have that title. If you are just looking for the total
number of people who work in histology labs--then that is a different
question all together.~~LuAnn
At 07:45 AM 10/6/2006, Rene J Buesa wrote:
And who says I don't call them HTs?
For me any person doing histology work is an HT; have you forgotten how
many "trained just on the job" HTs were grandfathered when a license was a
requirement?
Is a fantastic section or a beautiful trichrome done better by somebody
accredited over somebody with the right experience? (Another "can of
worms").
This is just a "number" of HTs nationwide = how many of us are doing the
slides on which the pathologists base their diagnosis.
René J.
Douglas D Deltour wrote:
Can of worms...
If you pass a NAACLS accredited school or get a degree in histology then
why
wouldn't you call them a HT?
Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Professional Pathology Services, PC
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To: Rene J Buesa; LaDonna G. Elpers; Jackie M O'Connor; Zajic Kari
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
I think that certification should be the issue.
One does not truly have the title of HTif they
have not passed the registry exam. JMHO.
At 02:47 PM 10/5/2006, Rene J Buesa wrote:
>No, certification is not the issue, just how
>many HTs there are, how many of us share this art of histology?
> René J.
>
>"LaDonna G. Elpers" wrote:
> Our facility has 6 Histology Technicians, my
> guess would be that there are probably another
> 15 in our town. The question would be if we
> talking about those certified only? We are
> currently half and half, 3 certified and 3 not.
>
>LaDonna G. Elpers, BA, HT(ASCP)
>Manager, Histology
>BASi (Bioanalytical Systems, Inc.)
>10424 Middle Mount Vernon Rd - Mount Vernon, IN 47620
>P 812.985.5900 ext 128
>F 812.985.3403
>lelpers <@t> bioanalytical.com
> www.bioanalytical.com
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>What about those of us who are doing the work of four people? Does that
>count?
>JO'C
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>Hi Rene, I enjoyed your recent article in the new Advance, was very
>interesting! I am only one in my facility, a general hospital. If you
are
>taking count!! :)
>
>You have now inspired me to re-new my severly overdue membership with
the
>NSH.
>Cheers from West Palm!
>Kari :)
>
>Kari Marie Zajic HTL,MLT
>Histology/Pathology Supervisor
>Palms West Hospital
>Pathology Department
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>Loxahatchee, Florida 33470
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>[ mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Rene J
>Buesa
>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:32 PM
>To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
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>Dear Histonet subscriber:
>
>The US Census does NOT recognize histotechs (HTs) as a category of
>professionals (the NSH is going to try to do something about that during
>2007) so we do not know how many we are. Some indirect calculations are
>needed to answer that question.
>According to the US Census bureau:
>
>1- there are 5,193 general and surgical hospitals and perhaps 95% of
>them have a histology laboratory = 5,000 labs
>2- the average number of HTs per lab = 9 (range from 1 to 15 or more in
>some).
>So, in hospital settings there could be 5,000 x 9 = 45,000 HTs
>
>3- There are 4,084 institutions of higher education and perhaps 50% have
>some sort of histology lab, veterinary, marine, research, botany, etc. =
>2,000 histology labs.
>4- those experimental labs have an average of 2 HTs (between 1 and 5,
>sometimes up to 10)
>So, in universities there could be 2,000 x 2 = 4,000 HTs
>
>Adding both = 49,000 histotechs nationwide.
>
>If membership to the NSH in 2006 (4,400 members) is any indicator (and
>usually prestigious professional societies are able to have a membership
>of roughly 10% of the profession) it can be said that the 4,400 members
in
>2006 = 9% of the proposed number.
>
>What do you think?
>Are we more than 49,000; less? or is 49,000 HTs about right?
>René J.
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