[Histonet] Ventana Benchmark

Tue May 30 06:55:17 CDT 2006

Anybody been a patient in a hospital recently?  I was - and NO I'm not on 
Medicare - I have really good insurance from my husband's plan at 
Motorola.
I was in the hospital for 4 days - my bill was over $20K - the negotiated 
payment was about 15% of the actual billed amount.   I don't understand 
how hospitals are managing to stay open only recovering 10% of the actual 
cost of services.   Seems our economy is driven by the insurance 
companies.

"Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com> 
Sent by: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
05/27/2006 05:56 PM

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<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Re: [Histonet] Ventant Benchmark

Patsy,
we charge what Medicare pays. Many insurance companies pay less. This is 
what fries my cookies. These people want to make money, yet pays trough 
the 
nose for immunos. Penny wise, dollar foolish is what my father would say.

Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pruegg <@t> ihctech.net>
To: "'Joe Nocito'" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>; "'Scott A. Ely'" 
<sae2001 <@t> med.cornell.edu>; <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Cc: <histonet-owner <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ventant Benchmark

>I am with you Joe.
> I have not ever been able to understand how the labs can justify 
spending 
> so
> much to run IHC, I guess they just pass the cost on to the patient, I 
can 
> do
> the same thing for about 1/100 of the cost of running an instrument like 

> the
> Ventana using an open system like the Dakoautostainer and making up a 
lot 
> of
> my own reagents like the buffers.  I work in research and don't have a 
> money
> cow like the patient health care system to milk.  No wonder health care
> costs are so,years ago when I worked in clinical we used to do what ever 

> we
> could to try and help save the patient expense, sure doesn't seem like 
> that
> is the case anymore.  I know that understaffing, quick turn around and
> untrained personnel is a big part of the problem here but come on, do 
you
> really want someone who only knows how to apply a bar code to be running
> your diagnostic IHC's?
> Bring on the flaming......
> Patsy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe 
Nocito
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 7:29 AM
> To: Scott A. Ely; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Cc: histonet-owner <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventant Benchmark
>
> flaming time
> How come every one talks about the reliability and walk away technology, 

> but
>
> no one ever talks about the price of running these machines? Shouldn't 
> cost
> be a factor also?
> I've been in budget meetings all week. The only thing I heard was how
> expensive it is to run immunos. Yeah, we have two XTs, what do you 
expect?
>
> The opinions stated here are that of the author only and does not 
express
> the opinions of his employer, lawyers, siblings, significant others and
> their lawyers.
>
> Oh, by the way, I told the same thing to my Ventana Rep on Friday. He 
> knows,
>
> so y'all don't need to call my CEO. Y'all know who you are.
>
> Let the flaming begin.
>
> Joe Nocito BS, HT(ASCP)QIHC
> Histology Manager
> Pathology Reference Lab
> San Antonio, TX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott A. Ely" <sae2001 <@t> med.cornell.edu>
> To: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Cc: <histonet-owner <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:58 AM
> Subject: [Histonet] Ventant Benchmark
>
>
>> We are considering buying some new equipment.  I would like to know who
>> uses the Ventana Benchmark
>> immunostainer or other immunostainers and what you like and don't like
>> about it.
>>
>> Scott Ely, MD MPH
>> Section of Hematopathology
>> Department of Pathology
>> Weill Medical College of Cornell University
>> New York Presbyterian Hospital
>> 525 E. 68th Street
>> New York, NY 10021
>> PH:  212-746-2442
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>> Date: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:29 pm
>> Subject: Histonet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 39
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