[Histonet] who grosses and embeds?
jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com
Wed Jun 28 05:47:46 CDT 2006
you bring up an excellent point. We have one pathologist that refuses to cut
shave bxs, vas deferens, fallopian tubes, temporal arteries and other small
specimens. I have instructed my embedders that they have to cut these
specimens for proper orientation. Is this considered grossing?
As far as grossing sheets, every lab that I have worked in, plus the lab
that I started, always had a grossing sheet. It's almost mal-practice not
to. How could you tell if a specimen has special instructions or not such as
a renal bx?
Just my 3 cents worth.
Joe Nocito BS, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Pathology Reference Lab
San Antonio, TX
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Subject: [Histonet] who grosses and embeds?
> The question of who is allowed to gross what surgical pathology specimens
> seems to keep coming up. Right now the regulatory agencies seem to be
> toward making the pathologist do it all.
> In contrast, nobody seems to be interested in the embedder - who in effect
> re-grosses small biopsy specimens. When I was a resident (around 1970) we
> to fill out a sheet - listing the number of biopsy specimens for example -
> the embedder consulted while embedding. I've worked in maybe forty
> pathology services since then (as a locum tenens pathologist, mostly) and
> don't think I've ever seen an embedding sheet again.
> It's quite disconcerting when the endoscopist describes three specimens, I
> receive two, and the next day there's only one piece of tissue on the
> It seems to me that the College of American Pathologists (CAP) should make
> a Phase II (immediate remediation required) to embed small specimens
> an embedding sheet.
> Cowpath, Tantrum, and other surgical pathology data bases should be able
> generate a compact case list that the count of specimens could be
> onto - Cowpath at least requires that a compact specimen log be
> And pathology residents should be required to come in during the wee hours
> and learn how to embed!
> Bob Richmond
> Knoxville TN and Gastonia NC
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