[Histonet] salary for lab assistants

Tue Jun 27 05:39:06 CDT 2006

here we go.
Last year when we gave out CAP lecture (well Hector did anyway),I were 
critiqued as having a bad attitude towards CAP. This is a perfect example 
why.
Joe "Flame Me" Nocito
alias "Joe The Toe"

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From: "Charles.Embrey" <Charles.Embrey <@t> carle.com>
To: "Janice Mahoney" <JMahoney <@t> alegent.org>; <Pathrm35 <@t> adelphia.net>; 
<pamm <@t> hlclab.com>; <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>; <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] salary for lab assistants

First off, CAP doesn't exactly follow CLIA.  CLIA is more stringent and what 
you describe is definitely considered grossing and "high complexity 
testing".  CAP, on the other hand, is drawing a distinction between grossing 
(anything that must be cut in) and non-grossing (taking measurements and 
putting biopsies in a cassette with no cutting involved).  Technically you 
can meet CAP standards while being in violation of CLIA regulations.  If the 
lab does any billing with the government, (Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare) then 
you had better be meeting CLIA '88.  Personally I thing CAP is so wrong for 
clouding the water on this one.

Charles Embrey, PA(ASCP)

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] salary for lab assistants

I completely agree.  Weighing and measuring is grossing and the person who 
does so must qualify under CLIA (CAP follows CLIA).  Many institutions are 
still allowing this grossing to be performed HT's and assistants who do not 
qualify.  I have been performing CAP inspections for many years and have 
cited labs for this.  I did my homework and have documentation from CLIA to 
substantiate the fact that "measuring, counting and weighing" is indeed 
grossing.
Jan M.
Omaha

>>> "Ron Martin" <Pathrm35 <@t> adelphia.net> 06/25/2006 11:21 AM >>>
Should this lab assistant be "cassetting" at all? This sounds like a
grossing tech to me and should fall under CLIA regs for high complex testing
with the appropriate education/training. If this person isn't qualified
should he/she be performing these duties at all?
Ron Martin

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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:38 AM
To: Pam Mara; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] salary for lab assistants

Pam:
  For your description your assistant works as a histotech although she may
or may not have "academic qualifications".
  You have to consider also that initially histotechs were trained "on the
job" and later on were "grandfathered" at licensure time (perhaps this is
one of the reasons why historically histotechs are in lower echelon of
clinical lab salary scale, but that is another subject to talk about!).
  I do not think that you should ask about lab aides paymen rates when your
aide is performing tasks above those of that job position.
  As a lab supervisor/manager it should be part of your mission that of
assuring that the employees you supervise are treated fairly.
  Having said all that I think that you should get for her a salary that
reflects her tasks, not those usually corresponding for a job level.
  It is my opinion that she shoudl be paid, at least, at the histotech entry
level.
  Hope this will help you!
  René J.

Pam Mara <pamm <@t> hlclab.com> wrote:
  I have a question. We have a lab assistant here who does the "cassetting"
of
tissue specimens. She isn't a PA and she doesn't really gross in any large
specimens. We mainly have GI specimens and biopsies, which she
weighs/measures and puts into cassettes. She also helps with staining,
coverslipping, etc.
I was just wondering what is a reasonable salary for someone who performs
these tasks? Does anyone else work with a lab assistant that performs
similar tasks?

Thanks for the info,
Pam Mara

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