[Histonet] CAP question on grossing

Lee & Peggy Wenk lpwenk <@t> sbcglobal.net
Thu Oct 27 04:38:26 CDT 2005

I can address, somewhat, the part about why is grossing not on the ASCP
certification exams.

>From what I have heard, it will be in the future.

The reason it has not been on, is that that HT exam had 3 routes, one of
which was the high school diploma + 1 year on-the-job-training (OJT) route.
That route did not meet the CLIA criteria.

>From what was said a couple of years ago (I believe by an ASCP rep at the
Instructors of Histotechnology forum at an NSH Symposium), the plan was to
wait until the HS route was dropped. That would leave the NAACLS route and
the associate degree/1 year OJT routes. Those with the associate degree
would meet the CLIA criteria.

Maybe someone else on the ASCP Histotechnology Exam Committee can fill in
more details.

Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS
William Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, MI 48037

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] CAP question on grossing

This is great it is nice to know that we are not the only hospital with this
issue.  This is something that the ASCP needs to address, and not only have
the CLIA guideline.  Currently there are a lot of places were tech are asked
to gross, so if this is a High Complexity testing, why is this not in the
test to become a Histo tech.  Further more it seems that the hospital,
research and private labs, not to mention the Dr's are benefitting from
this.  I have to agree with Charles that you need to be paid for the service
that you are doing, but what happens when management does not want to pay or
they say show me or give me information on were salaries reflect this.  This
brings us to several questions, were we need our state, national and peers
to get together and figure out a solution.  There are already a huge
shortage of tech, not to mention Pathologist Assistants and Pathologist.  I
see the need to adapt to the environment that is being created, but not at
the expense of the patient or quality of our work.  

Then why be a Pathologist Assistant if you can gross, do autopsies and be a
histotech.?? There needs to be some sort of standard here.  I know that I am
getting excited, but the fact of the matter is, We PAY dues to these
societies and in recent all they have done is collect.  The time has come to
get the ball rolling and get what we are due, whether it be titles, levels
of competencies or pay, something need to be done.

Jesus Ellin
Yuma Regional Medical Center

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