[Histonet] Bugger - originally ORO

Tue Nov 22 12:41:36 CST 2005

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kristen Broomall [mailto:kbroomal <@t> NEMOURS.ORG]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:31 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Bugger - originally ORO

Are all of you really that bored?

Do I need to clarify this AGAIN? (I already said that Bryan's original
response was correct.)
"The ending "er" in English denotes a person (or thing) who/which does an
action.  To "bug" is a colloquial expression meaning to irritate, so a
"bugger" (the letter g is doubled to preserve the short vowel sound)would be
someone (or something) who irritates someone else."

When you bug someone (about anything, like asking similar questions over &
over again), you are being annoying or irritating. Like a bug flying around
your head & buzzing in your ear would be annoying. So if something is
annoying, it's a bugger. Is this really that difficult?

Kristen aka. "the original user"

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Bryan
Llewellyn
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] oil red o

I think an American would use an accepted American meaning of the term
rather than a British one, but even in Britain "Bugger" doesn't always mean
someone who engages in anal intercourse.  It also has the meaning of "fool"
or "pitiable person", as a synonym for "poor sod" for example, or something
like that.  The original user was from the US, so presumably she used one of
that dialect's definitions.  I originally derived it from "bug" with tongue
in cheek, but since then I have looked it up in dictionaries and got the
following.  It seems that the use to mean "something annoying" is actually
derived from "bug" referring to an insect, so I was (quite unintentially)
spot on.  There is also a third meaning.  Do a Google search on "dictionary"
and check the meaning in some of the ones that come up.  Note
Merriam-Webster's definition 1-3.

Merrriam-Webster online dictionary

Main Entry: 1 bug·ger
Pronunciation: 'b&-g&r, 'bu-g&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English bougre heretic, from Middle French, from Medieval
Latin Bulgarus, literally, Bulgarian; from the association of Bulgaria with
the Bogomils, who were accused of sodomy
1 : SODOMITE
2 a : a worthless person : RASCAL
   b : FELLOW, CHAP
3 : a small or annoying thing <put down my keys and now I can't find the
buggers>

Main Entry: 2 bug·ger
Pronunciation: 'b&-g&r
Function: transitive verb
1 usually vulgar : to commit sodomy with
2 : DAMN

Main Entry: 3 bugger
Function: noun
: a person who plants electronic bugs

Bryan Llewellyn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rogerson Kemlo (ELHT) Pathology" <Kemlo.Rogerson <@t> elht.nhs.uk>
To: "Oshel, Philip Eugene" <oshel1pe <@t> cmich.edu>;
<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] oil red o & phrases

Um no, still wrong. You need to explore the UK accepted meaning of the
term rather than it being a derivative of 'bug'; I concede bunging a
'ger; may lead you to think that it's someone who bugs you but in the UK
it has a more anal meaning.

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Oshel,
Philip Eugene
Sent: 22 November 2005 13:07
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] oil red o & phrases

Nope, spot on. The difference is British vs. the purer form of English
we know over on this side of the puddle. This difference possibly comes
from days spent as a youth in British Public Schools.

Phil

Philip Oshel
Microscopy Facility Supervisor
Department of Biology
Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859
(989) 774-3576

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Rogerson
Kemlo (ELHT) Pathology
Sent: Tue 05/11/22 04:12
To: Bryan Llewellyn; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] oil red o

Um nope, not even near.

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bryan
Llewellyn
Sent: 21 November 2005 17:07
To: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] oil red o

The ending "er" in English denotes a person (or thing) who/which does an

action.  To "bug" is a colloquial expression meaning to irritate, so a
"bugger" (the letter g is doubled to preserve the short vowel sound)
would
be someone (or something) who irritates someone else.  Is there another
meaning?

Bryan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rogerson Kemlo (ELHT) Pathology" <Kemlo.Rogerson <@t> elht.nhs.uk>
To: "Kristen Broomall" <kbroomal <@t> NEMOURS.ORG>; "Sally Prouty"
<prouty27 <@t> msn.com>; <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] oil red o

"Quite a bugger" I quote.

Do you know what one is? It doesn't seem to fit the context in which you
are using it. Are you using it as a noun or a verb?

I'm sure you aren't talking about Sally.

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kristen
Broomall
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:19 PM
To: 'Sally Prouty'; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] oil red o

Make sure that you are not pressing (at all!) on your coverslip, even to
get
out air bubbles. The ORO will come right out of the fat cells. Quite a
bugger.

Kristen

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Sally
Prouty
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:53 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] oil red o

I am trying to locate a protocol for a consistant Oil red O stain. I
don't
know if it is in coverslipping where the stain is moving off the fat
cells
or in my differentiation step. I am staining on frozen skeletal muscle
sections. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thank you,

Sally

Sally J. Prouty
HHMI/University of Iowa
Kevin Campbell Laboratory
400 EMRB
Iowa City, Iowa 52246
319-335-6944

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