[Histonet] Histologist ratio

Clarke, Mary mclarke <@t> allsaintshealthcare.org
Tue Nov 8 11:05:52 CST 2005


We have 4 pathologists and 4 histotechs, one who is registry eligible and 3 who are registered.

Terri Clarke
Histology Supervisor
All Saints Laboratory
3801 Spring Street
Racine, Wi 53405
mclarke <@t> allsaintshealthcare.org
262-687-6609


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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: measuring collagen (Boyce, Amanda (NIH/NIAMS))
   2. H. Pylori Controls (Vicki Gauch)
   3. Re: H. Pylori Controls (Rene J Buesa)
   4. histologist/pathologist ratio (LINDA MARGRAF)
   5. RE: H. Pylori Controls (Jeff Gordon)
   6. Sheep anti BrdU (Yun Li)
   7. Re: histologist/pathologist ratio (Rene J Buesa)
   8. Sihler's Stain (Dianne Holmes)
   9. (no subject) (mplhisto <@t> aol.com)
  10. Re: Sihler's Stain (Rene J Buesa)
  11. Inflammation (John PJ Coleman)
  12. Histo Online Program (Linresearch <@t> aol.com)
  13. Pleaes unsuscribe (Bernardo Vargas Angel)
  14. re: grinding bone sections (caron fournier)
  15. cytospin or cytek machine (Elizabeth Chlipala)
  16. Re: Sihler's Stain (John Kiernan)
  17. Re: re: grinding bone sections (louise renton)
  18. Re: Bone marrow unspecific staining (Mikael Niku)
  19. Thermal polymerisation of LR gold resin for electron
      microscopy (Peter Bannister)
  20. Red marker (Steven Coakley)
  21. Mounting Gelatine Embedded Cryostat CNS Sections
      (germckeon <@t> excite.com)
  22. RE: Red marker (Ingles Claire)
  23. Reagent Grade Alcohol (LeVier, Rebecca J)
  24. Re: Bone marrow unspecific staining (Rene J Buesa)
  25. RE: histologist/pathologist ratio (Horn, Hazel V)
  26. Re: Reagent Grade Alcohol (Rene J Buesa)
  27. Thank you (Vicki Gauch)
  28. RE: histologist/pathologist ratio (Rene J Buesa)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:18:26 -0500
From: "Boyce, Amanda \(NIH/NIAMS\)" <boycea <@t> mail.nih.gov>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: measuring collagen
To: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Our lab uses a hydroxyproline assay.  I've never used it, so I can't troubleshoot it for you, but here's the protocol:

Acid hydrolysis
	*	 Papain digest and 12N HCL 1:1
	*	110 overnight in sealed glass ampules
	*	dry sample 24-48 h in vacuum-pump with NaOH
	*	resuspend in 1 ml assay buffer, vortex, overnight at 4, vortex again
	*	store at -20 or assay

Hydroxyproline assay
Reagents:
	*	stock buffer: 50 g citric acid monohydrate, 12 ml glacial acetic acid , 120 g sodium acetate trihydrate, 34 g sodium hydroxide ad 1 liter, pH 6.0, store at 4
	*	assay buffer: 1:10 dilution of stock buffer
	*	chloramin-T-reagent: 0.3525g Chloramine T dissolved in 5.175 ml water, add 6.5 ml m-propanol and 13.325 ml stock buffer, make fresh
	*	Dimethylaminobenzaldehyde reagent: 3.75 g dimethylaminobenzaldehyde in 15 ml n-propanol, add 6.5 ml perchloric acid, make fresh
	*	Standard: 1 mg/ml hydroyxproline, store -20
Method:
	1.	standard dilutions: 0, 0 , 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 ,10 µg/ml
	2.	sample dilutions: 1:5, 1:10, 1:20, 1:40, 1:80,1: 100
	3.	200 µl sample/standard in eppendorf
	4.	add 100 µl Chloramine T, pipett mix 20 min room temp
	5.	add 100 µl dimethylaminobenzaldehyde, pipet mix, 15 min 60 water bath
	6.	300 µl in 96 well plate and read immediately 540 nm

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Amanda Taylor Boyce, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral IRTA Fellow
Cartilage Biology and Orthopaedics Branch
National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases National Institutes of Health Bldg. 13, Rm. 3W17 Bethesda, MD 20892-5755
Phone: 301-451-6860
Fax: 301-480-4315
Email: boycea <@t> mail.nih.gov

> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 07:00:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Niloufar Fozouni <niloof <@t> yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] measuring collagen
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> Does anybody know, how I can measure collagen content
> in cartilage?
> Thank you.
> Niloo
> 
> 



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 13:24:25 -0500
From: "Vicki Gauch" <GauchV <@t> mail.amc.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] H. Pylori Controls
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Does anyone know of a good source for H. Pylori Controls?? We normally order from Newcomer Supply but they are experiencing a large backorder right now and we need something to hold us over until they arrive.  Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thanks so much, Vicki Gauch AMCH Albany, NY

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 11:30:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] H. Pylori Controls
To: Vicki Gauch <GauchV <@t> mail.amc.edu>,
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We used positive cases that were selected by the pathologists, but there is another approarch. Usually pathologists want to be able to have a positive control of exactly what they are looking for; if this is the case with your pathologists you will need controls comntaining H. pylori. Now, the whole idea with the control is to make sure that the procedure worked, and this you can obtain with any tissue containing abundant number of bacteria. After a long "convincing" process with our pathologists I was able to make them aware of this fact. We used the Steiner method (with phosphotungstic acid instead of the radiactive uranyl nitrate) and for control we used appendix (and you will not find a more easy to find tissue with more bacteria than an appendix). Perhaps you would like to try to talk about this approach with your pathologist. Just a thought! Rene J. 

Vicki Gauch <GauchV <@t> mail.amc.edu> wrote:
Does anyone know of a good source for H. Pylori Controls?? We normally order from Newcomer Supply but they are experiencing a large backorder right now and we need something to hold us over until they arrive. Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thanks so much, Vicki Gauch AMCH Albany, NY

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 13:49:23 -0600
From: "LINDA MARGRAF" <LINDA.MARGRAF <@t> childrens.com>
Subject: [Histonet] histologist/pathologist ratio
To: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Here's a message Beatrice is having trouble posting to the list. 
Please email her or send your reply to the entire list (and not me directly).  Thanks Linda M (Histonet administrator)

"DeBrosse_Beatrice" <DeBrosse_Beatrice <@t> Allergan.com>
Hi!

 I would like to know what the ratio of how many histologists to a Pathologist is. Does the ratio differ from hospitals to reference labs to pharmaceutical labs? Your help is greatly appreciated. 

 Sincerely, 

Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra
HT(ASCP)QIHC
Allergan, Inc.
2525 Dupont Drive RD-2A
Irvine, CA 92612
714-246-5116





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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:16:27 -0600
From: "Jeff Gordon" <JGordon <@t> cellmarque.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] H. Pylori Controls
To: "Vicki Gauch" <GauchV <@t> mail.amc.edu>,
	<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Cell Marque offers H. pylori positive controls for IHC, as well as controls for every other antibody that we carry.
 
Jeff Gordon
Cell Marque Corp.
http://www.cellmarque.com

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	Subject: [Histonet] H. Pylori Controls
	
	

	Does anyone know of a good source for H. Pylori Controls?? We normally
	order from Newcomer Supply but they are experiencing a large backorder
	right now and we need something to hold us over until they arrive.
	 Any help would be greatly appreciated...
	Thanks so much,
	Vicki Gauch
	AMCH
	Albany, NY
	
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:21:17 -0600
From: Yun Li <yun.li <@t> utsouthwestern.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] Sheep anti BrdU
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Greetings everyone,

I am trying to do some double immuno-staining for BrdU and other 
antigens.  Since the antibodies for my "other" antigens are mostly from 
mouse, I am looking for a non-mouse (and preferably non-rat) antibody 
against BrdU.  I came across this sheep anti brdU antibody in the 
literature, it seems that several different companies offer it, 
including maine biotech, abcam, novus and one called genetex.  So my 
question is has anyone here used it before, what type of sections was 
used, how did it work and which company was it purchased from?  Thanks a 
lot! 

yun





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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:43:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] histologist/pathologist ratio
To: LINDA MARGRAF <LINDA.MARGRAF <@t> childrens.com>,
	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Hi Beatrice:
Some months ago I reviewed different sources (US Dept Labor; US Dept. Commerce;ASCP) and got to the figure of about 1.4 to 2.0 histotechs per pathologist. This, as any other average, is "not written in stone" and has to vary between laboratories. Of the laboratories I personally know the averages have been from 1 to 1, to 2.2 to 1 These figures will also depend on the type of laboratory: laboratories in small hospitals will probably will be closer to 1:1, in large reference laboratories, although will have many more pathologists, the huge sample volume will require the larger side of the scale (2 or 2:2 histotechs / pathologist). Rene J.

LINDA MARGRAF <LINDA.MARGRAF <@t> childrens.com> wrote:
Here's a message Beatrice is having trouble posting to the list. 
Please email her or send your reply to the entire list (and not me directly). Thanks Linda M (Histonet administrator)

"DeBrosse_Beatrice" 
Hi!

I would like to know what the ratio of how many histologists to a Pathologist is. Does the ratio differ from hospitals to reference labs to pharmaceutical labs? Your help is greatly appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra
HT(ASCP)QIHC
Allergan, Inc.
2525 Dupont Drive RD-2A
Irvine, CA 92612
714-246-5116



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:34:24 -0600
From: "Dianne Holmes" <dholmes <@t> anatomy.umsmed.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] Sihler's Stain
To: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Is anyone familiar with this process to counterstain nerve fibers within a relatively transparent muscle?   I need a materials and method list.  Can anyone help me?




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:56:31 -0500
From: mplhisto <@t> aol.com
Subject: [Histonet] (no subject)
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Message-ID: <8C7B1FD3F626F95-B64-AA33 <@t> FWM-R21.sysops.aol.com>
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Can anyone tell me the name of a good computer safety training program ? we are looking to update our current program ? Thanks
 
Meredith Hale HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor 
Pathology Partners
Irving, Texas


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:03:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sihler's Stain
To: Dianne Holmes <dholmes <@t> anatomy.umsmed.edu>,
	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Hi Dianne:
Sihler's method was published by Bohm and Oppel in 1907 and is used in pieces of fesh muscle. The solutions are:
A- water 75 mL + glycerol 12 mL+ acetic acid 12 mL + chloral hydrate 0.75 g
B- water 75 ml + Ehrlich hematoxylin (1886 formula) 12 mL + glycerol 12 mL + chloral hydrate 0.75 g
C- 0.1% acetic acid in glycerol.
Method: pieces of fresh muscle in Sol.A for 18 hours; transfer to Sol.B for 3 to 10 days; transfer to Sol.C untill differentiated, mount in glycerol, seal coverslip with wax. Hope this will help! Rene J.

Dianne Holmes <dholmes <@t> anatomy.umsmed.edu> wrote:
Is anyone familiar with this process to counterstain nerve fibers within a relatively transparent muscle? I need a materials and method list. Can anyone help me?


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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:23:10 -0500
From: John PJ Coleman <jcolclefa <@t> aol.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Inflammation
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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For inflammation (?)  I personally would start trying to label the 
leucocytes. What about CD15 for Polys, CD117 for mast cells, and CD30 
or CD68 for Histiocytes?
On Nov 7, 2005, at 1:01 PM, histonet-request <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
wrote:


    Dear All,

    I  wish  to use IHC for the detection of chronic inflammation in 
human
    tissues - specifically within the prostate.  I am using formalin 
fixed
    sections of  prostate.   The  list  of  possible  markers  for 
chronic
    inflammation  out  there  is  rather overwhelming.  I was wondering 
if
    anyone  had  a  small  panel of tried and tested antibodies that 
would
    cover   most  of  the  chronic  inflammatory  cells  or  give  a  
good
    representative  picture of chronic inflammation within the tissue.  
Or
    even suggest a few antibodies with which I could start with.

    Many thanks for attention,

    Steve Leung

    Clinical Research Fellow

    University of Edinburgh

    U.K.





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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:24:57 EST
From: Linresearch <@t> aol.com
Subject: [Histonet] Histo Online Program
To: histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu
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Hello,
Does anyone know of a current online program for Histology?
Lin


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Message: 13
Date: Mon,  7 Nov 2005 18:17:21 -0500
From: Bernardo Vargas Angel <vargasb <@t> nova.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] Pleaes unsuscribe
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Please unsuscribe
Bernardo Vargas Angel Ph.D








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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:54:26 -0500 (EST)
From: caron fournier <caron_fournier <@t> yahoo.ca>
Subject: [Histonet] re: grinding bone sections
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Hi All:
what is the finest paper that you have used on an exakt system for grinding bone samples (undecalcified). We were told that the 2500 was the highest they had but there is literature that notes 4000. 


Caron Fournier, BSc, R.T.
Department of Orthopaedics,
Division of Orthopaedic Engineering Research,
U.B.C.
 

		
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:36:36 -0700
From: "Elizabeth Chlipala" <liz <@t> premierlab.com>
Subject: [Histonet] cytospin or cytek machine
To: "'Histonet'" <histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu>
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Hello Histonetters
 
I have a unique request.  I have a client that is in Emeryville California and they need access to a cytospin or a Thin Prep machine, they are willing to pay for time, etc.  If there is anyone out there that is willing to do this can they e-mail me back with contact information so I can forward it to them.
 
Thanks in advance
 
Liz
 
Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
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P.O. Box 18592
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Office: (303) 735-5001
Fax: (303) 735-3540
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Ship to Address:
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:15:03 -0500
From: John Kiernan <jkiernan <@t> uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sihler's Stain
To: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Cc: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Before going ahead with Sihler's haemalum method (for peripheral nerves in cleared whole mounts) consult recent publications:

Wu BL, Sanders I (1994) The Sihler stain: A technique for studying peripheral nerves in whole-mount specimens. Neuroscience Protocols Module 4: 83-93.

Wu B, Saunders I (1994) The Sihler stain: a technique for studying peripheral nerves in whole-mount specimens. In: FG Wouterlood,  Neuroscience Protocols. Elsevier, Amsterdam. pp. 94-050-07-01 to 94-050-07-10.

Mu LC, Sanders I (1998) Neuromuscular organization of the human upper esophageal sphincter. Annals of Otology Rhinology and Laryngology 107: 370-377.

Mu LC, Sanders I (1999) Neuromuscular organization of the canine tongue. Anatomical Record 256: 412-424.

Gozil R, Kadioglu D, Calguner E, Erdogan D, Bahcelioglu M, Elmas C (2002) Branching patterns of rabbit oculomotor and trochlear nerves demonstrated by Sihler's stain technique. Biotechnic & Histochemistry 77: 21-25.

This is an important method for examining the "gross" anatomy of small nerves.

Rene: do you have a copy of Bohm & Appel 1907 or of any of Sihler's papers? If so, I'd be really grateful for bibliographic details!

John Kiernan
Anatomy, UWO
London, Canada. ______________________________________________________________
Rene J Buesa wrote:
> 
> Hi Dianne:
> Sihler's method was published by Bohm and Oppel in 1907 and is used in 
> pieces of fesh muscle. The solutions are:
> A- water 75 mL + glycerol 12 mL+ acetic acid 12 mL + chloral hydrate 0.75 g
> B- water 75 ml + Ehrlich hematoxylin (1886 formula) 12 mL + glycerol 12 mL + chloral hydrate 0.75 g
> C- 0.1% acetic acid in glycerol.
> Method: pieces of fresh muscle in Sol.A for 18 hours; transfer to Sol.B for 3 to 10 days; transfer to Sol.C untill differentiated, mount in glycerol, seal coverslip with wax.
> Hope this will help!
> Rene J.
> 
> Dianne Holmes <dholmes <@t> anatomy.umsmed.edu> wrote:
> Is anyone familiar with this process to counterstain nerve fibers 
> within a relatively transparent muscle? I need a materials and method 
> list. Can anyone help me?
> 
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:55:14 +0200
From: louise renton <louise.renton <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] re: grinding bone sections
To: caron fournier <caron_fournier <@t> yahoo.ca>,
	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Yep,

we GRIND on 2500, but POLISH on 4000. This help??

On 11/8/05, caron fournier <caron_fournier <@t> yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Hi All:
> what is the finest paper that you have used on an exakt system for 
> grinding bone samples (undecalcified). We were told that the 2500 was 
> the highest they had but there is literature that notes 4000.
>
>
> Caron Fournier, BSc, R.T.
> Department of Orthopaedics,
> Division of Orthopaedic Engineering Research,
> U.B.C.
>
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 10:08:19 +0200
From: Mikael Niku <mikael.niku <@t> helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Bone marrow unspecific staining
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Andrea and Rene, thanks for your comments. I'm sorry for being a bit 
unspecific with my unspecificity question :)

Some more details on the problem:

- Seems to be caused by unspecific antibody binding, but not a specific 
property of this primary ab
- Primary antibody works very well with other tissues
- Also other primaries (and secondary alone) show unspecific staining 
with BM
- Not caused by endogenous biotin, peroxidase, or autofluorescence (done 
enough controls)

And some more details on the protocol:

- Bovine BM tissue samples decalcified with EDTA, or cell samples 
embedded in agar
- Paraformaldehyde fixation
- HIER (glycine-HCl pH 3) + Tween-20 permeabilization + mild protease 
digestion
- For peroxidase-based protocol, biotin block (tried also peroxidase 
block, doesn't help)
- Serum block
- Rabbit primary antibody (overnight +4C)
- Sheep secondary antibody (biotinylated or fluorescent)
- For biotinylated secondary, tyramide amplification & DAB reaction, 
hematoxylin counterstain
- For fluorescent secondary, Sudan Black B for autofluorescence suppression
- Embedding with Faramount

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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:07:52 +0000
From: "Peter Bannister" <peter_bannister <@t> hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: [Histonet] Thermal polymerisation of LR gold resin for
	electron	microscopy
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Hello Histonetters,

Does anyone have a method for the thermal polymerisation of LR gold resin 
for electron microscopy?
I am trying to produce blocks of cultured cell pellets fixed in para/glut, 
post fixed in Osmium tetroxide, dehydrated in ethanol, infiltrated with the 
resin and cured.
I have tried polymerisation using light with mixed results - non osmium 
treated blocks polymerise okay and are just about suitable for sectioning. 
However, osmium treated blocks will only polymerise down as far as the cell 
pellet (I understand that the dark colour absorbs light and therefore 
interferes with the polymerisation). I have tried to keep exposure to oxygen 
during polymerisation to a minimum by using closed BEEM capsules or snap fit 
gelatin capsules. I would therefore like to try the more classical thermal 
polymerisation at +60°C.
The problem is that when I add the initiator (benzoyl peroxide) to the pure 
resin I end up with a solid mass of resin even before the peroxide is fully 
dissolved, at room temperature -so i can't use it on my samples. If anyone can help me out with a protocol that will ensure the resin only 
polymerises quickly when at heated to +60°C it would be very much 
appreciated.
Many thanks for your time,
Peter Bannister.

Dr. Peter Bannister,
Thrombosis Research Institute,
Histopathology,
Emmanuel Kaye Building,
Manresa Road,
London SW3 6LR. UK.

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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 05:47:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Steven Coakley <sjchtascp <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Red marker
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Does anyone know of a company that makes permanant red markers that resist organic solvents?
 
Thanks,
 
Steve

		
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Message: 21
Date: Tue,  8 Nov 2005 08:51:01 -0500 (EST)
From: "germckeon <@t> excite.com" <germckeon <@t> excite.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Mounting Gelatine Embedded Cryostat CNS Sections
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Hello,

I am currently working on spinal cord and am having trouble with sections floating off. I have embedded with gelatine, am performing cryostat sectioning and will be doing some of the more structural stains eg Kultschitsky's stain for myelin. I have been using Superfrost slides.

Can anyone advise me regarding choices of slides, coatings, methodologies, etc which would maximise adherence?



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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:00:50 -0600
From: "Ingles Claire" <c.ingles <@t> hosp.wisc.edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Red marker
To: "Steven Coakley" <sjchtascp <@t> yahoo.com>,
	<Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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I believe I just saw some new ones in a Market lab catalogue yesterday. 1-800-237-3604 or www.marketlabinc.com. :)
 
Claire Ingles
UW Mohs Clinic Lab
Madison Wisconsin

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	Does anyone know of a company that makes permanant red markers that resist organic solvents?
	
	Thanks,
	
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:38:41 -0500
From: "LeVier, Rebecca J" <RJLevier <@t> LancasterGeneral.org>
Subject: [Histonet] Reagent Grade Alcohol
To: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Hello Histonetters,

I was just wondering what everyone was using for alcohol. Does anyone see any differences in Reagent Grade Alcohol compared to LCB regulated alcohol? ...... Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 06:50:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Bone marrow unspecific staining
To: Mikael Niku <mikael.niku <@t> helsinki.fi>,
	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Although I cannot be absolutely sure, for me it seems that perhaps the problem may reside in the paraformaldehyde fixation. Do you have to use it? Could you use another fixative in another parallel sample just to try to find out? Just a thoght! Rene J.

Mikael Niku <mikael.niku <@t> helsinki.fi> wrote:
Andrea and Rene, thanks for your comments. I'm sorry for being a bit 
unspecific with my unspecificity question :)

Some more details on the problem:

- Seems to be caused by unspecific antibody binding, but not a specific 
property of this primary ab
- Primary antibody works very well with other tissues
- Also other primaries (and secondary alone) show unspecific staining 
with BM
- Not caused by endogenous biotin, peroxidase, or autofluorescence (done 
enough controls)

And some more details on the protocol:

- Bovine BM tissue samples decalcified with EDTA, or cell samples 
embedded in agar
- Paraformaldehyde fixation
- HIER (glycine-HCl pH 3) + Tween-20 permeabilization + mild protease 
digestion
- For peroxidase-based protocol, biotin block (tried also peroxidase 
block, doesn't help)
- Serum block
- Rabbit primary antibody (overnight +4C)
- Sheep secondary antibody (biotinylated or fluorescent)
- For biotinylated secondary, tyramide amplification & DAB reaction, 
hematoxylin counterstain
- For fluorescent secondary, Sudan Black B for autofluorescence suppression
- Embedding with Faramount

-- 
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Mikael Niku URL: www.helsinki.fi/~mniku/
University of Helsinki Dept. Basic Veterinary Sciences

- Mitäkö mieltä olen länsimaisesta sivistyksestä?
Minusta se olisi erinomainen ajatus! 
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:56:38 -0600
From: "Horn, Hazel V" <HornHV <@t> archildrens.org>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] histologist/pathologist ratio
To: "Rene J Buesa" <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>,	"LINDA MARGRAF"
	<LINDA.MARGRAF <@t> childrens.com>,	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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We have 5 anatomic pathologists and 3 histotechs.    


Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Arkansas Children's Hospital
800 Marshall      Mail Slot 820
Little Rock, AR   72202
 
phone- 501.364.4240
fax- 501.364.3912
 
visit us on the web at:   www.archildrens.org

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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:44 PM
To: LINDA MARGRAF; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] histologist/pathologist ratio

Hi Beatrice:
Some months ago I reviewed different sources (US Dept Labor; US Dept.
Commerce;ASCP) and got to the figure of about 1.4 to 2.0 histotechs per pathologist. This, as any other average, is "not written in stone" and has to vary between laboratories. Of the laboratories I personally know the averages have been from 1 to 1, to 2.2 to 1 These figures will also depend on the type of laboratory: laboratories in small hospitals will probably will be closer to 1:1, in large reference laboratories, although will have many more pathologists, the huge sample volume will require the larger side of the scale (2 or 2:2 histotechs / pathologist). Rene J.

LINDA MARGRAF <LINDA.MARGRAF <@t> childrens.com> wrote:
Here's a message Beatrice is having trouble posting to the list. 
Please email her or send your reply to the entire list (and not me directly). Thanks Linda M (Histonet administrator)

"DeBrosse_Beatrice" 
Hi!

I would like to know what the ratio of how many histologists to a Pathologist is. Does the ratio differ from hospitals to reference labs to pharmaceutical labs? Your help is greatly appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra
HT(ASCP)QIHC
Allergan, Inc.
2525 Dupont Drive RD-2A
Irvine, CA 92612
714-246-5116



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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 06:59:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Reagent Grade Alcohol
To: "LeVier, Rebecca J" <RJLevier <@t> LancasterGeneral.org>,
	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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I always used 100% (= "200 grade") ,bought in bulk tax exempted, ethanol. Anything you need to do with "pure" ethanol will be simpler to calculate (solutions, mixtures, etc.) with 100% ethanol. Besides that, the "denatured" ethanol contains substances other than ethanol. Now, "reagent grade" sold by chemical companies with "impurities certificates", are much more expensive and offer no advantage over the type of "200 grade" ethanol I used to use. Rene J.

"LeVier, Rebecca J" <RJLevier <@t> LancasterGeneral.org> wrote: Hello Histonetters,

I was just wondering what everyone was using for alcohol. Does anyone see any differences in Reagent Grade Alcohol compared to LCB regulated alcohol? ...... Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


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Message: 27
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 10:00:22 -0500
From: "Vicki Gauch" <GauchV <@t> mail.amc.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] Thank you
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Thank you to everyone who responded to my query for H. Pylori Controls...we are looking into them now....You really are GREAT !!! Vicki AMCH Albany

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Message: 28
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 07:02:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] histologist/pathologist ratio
To: "Horn, Hazel V" <HornHV <@t> archildrens.org>,	LINDA MARGRAF
	<LINDA.MARGRAF <@t> childrens.com>,	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Question to all subscribers: why don't you post the histologists/pathologists ratios you have in each of your own laboratories? It will be like a survey from Histonet that for sure will usefull for all. Yesterday I posted the ratois I was aware of; now is your turns! Rene J.

"Horn, Hazel V" <HornHV <@t> archildrens.org> wrote:
We have 5 anatomic pathologists and 3 histotechs. 


Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Arkansas Children's Hospital
800 Marshall Mail Slot 820
Little Rock, AR 72202

phone- 501.364.4240
fax- 501.364.3912

visit us on the web at: www.archildrens.org

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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:44 PM
To: LINDA MARGRAF; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] histologist/pathologist ratio

Hi Beatrice:
Some months ago I reviewed different sources (US Dept Labor; US Dept.
Commerce;ASCP) and got to the figure of about 1.4 to 2.0 histotechs per pathologist. This, as any other average, is "not written in stone" and has to vary between laboratories. Of the laboratories I personally know the averages have been from 1 to 1, to 2.2 to 1 These figures will also depend on the type of laboratory: laboratories in small hospitals will probably will be closer to 1:1, in large reference laboratories, although will have many more pathologists, the huge sample volume will require the larger side of the scale (2 or 2:2 histotechs / pathologist). Rene J.

LINDA MARGRAF 
wrote:
Here's a message Beatrice is having trouble posting to the list. 
Please email her or send your reply to the entire list (and not me directly). Thanks Linda M (Histonet administrator)

"DeBrosse_Beatrice" 
Hi!

I would like to know what the ratio of how many histologists to a Pathologist is. Does the ratio differ from hospitals to reference labs to pharmaceutical labs? Your help is greatly appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra
HT(ASCP)QIHC
Allergan, Inc.
2525 Dupont Drive RD-2A
Irvine, CA 92612
714-246-5116



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