[Histonet] Re: Nomenclature: HT equivalent in France[Scanned]

[John Auld]

Hi Kemlo

I was trying to keep our somewhat complex situation as simple as possible
for our overseas colleagues. Also it seems to me that biomedical scientist
equivalents in some other countries are called technicians, technologists
or similar.

John

PS I have an MLA in the second year of a BMS BSc course and doing very
well, hope that's not tempting fate.



                                                                                                           
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One slight point. I think technical staff also include MLA's (Medical
Laboratory Assistants) who despite some having an 'inappropriate degree'
are
perfectly trainable to ultimately become BMS's; in fact some carry out very
responsible tasks. We also have Phlebotomists and Cytoscreeners too. I am
also confused as to whether BMS's are 'technical staff' or 'scientific
staff'. When we were state registered under the Medical Technicians Board
it
could have been argued so, but now we have a protected title and some have
chartered status, then I don't know. But I do know that all Lab Staff are
NOT Biomedical Scientists that I do know.

Kemlo Rogerson
Cellular Pathology Manager
East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust
DD. 01254-294162
Mobile 0774-9754194


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Subject: [Histonet] Re: Nomenclature: HT equivalent in France[Scanned]


Hi Teri

You are correct about the UK. All path lab technical staff are biomedical
scientists, requiring BSc plus 1 years OTJ traing before becoming
registered (mandatory). This is changing slightly as new degree courses
which will incorporate some of the OTJ training are starting up. These will
allow the graduate to be registered at graduation, hopefully improving
recruitment. For progression to more senior levels MSc is required.
The Institute of Biomedical Scientists website has a lot of info
www.ibms.org

Hope this is helpful

John

John Auld MSc CSci FIBMS
BMS 4
Dept of Histopathology and Clinical Cytology
Arrowe Park Hospital
Arrowe Park Road
Upton
Wirral

Internal extn 2560
External Tel 0151 604 7025

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:37:47 -0600
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Subject: [Histonet] Nomenclature: HT equivalent in France
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For those histologists working in France (and other European countries),
what is the nomenclature used for your position?  In the UK we are
biomedical scientists? And what are the education requirements for such?

Any info (or links to helpful websites) is appreciated.

Thanks!


Teri Johnson
Managing Director Histology Facility
Stowers Institute for Medical Research
1000 E. 50th St.
Kansas City, Missouri  64110
tjj <@t> stowers-institute.org


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