[Histonet] 4 cents worth

Bonnie Whitaker bwhitaker <@t> brownpathology.com
Tue Apr 5 11:18:54 CDT 2005

I agree, Barry!!!  I don't think that I would want to submitt an automated
slide.  How can you take pride in that?

Bonnie Whitaker

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rittman,
Barry R
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:05 AM
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Subject: [Histonet] 4 cents worth

I must in general agree with Pam and others who have stressed the need for
formal recognition of skills such as with a recognized program.

I do not think that anyone has been insulted on Histonet with regard to
their on the job training. I also had a lot of on the job training. What
those of y'all who may be indignant when the quality of OJT is questioned
have to realize is that it is not possible to equate OTJ in different

You may have had superb training or may have been in a job where the
training was poor or mediocre at best. You may have been working your buts
off or had time to improve your skills and experiment with new procedures.
It is difficult to know what your specific situation is unless you have a
piece of paper where you may be compared to other individuals. Having passed
the ASCP exam does not necessarily mean that you are better trained than
somewhat who has worked in a great lab and only received OJT.  It does mean
that you can be compared to others who have passed the  ASCP exam, it is a
basic level. 

Having a degree especially, outside the field may indicate that you have
reached a certain level of academia, but also does not guarantee that you
have "street smarts" or will be able to pick up techniques and concepts
better than an individual who has not received such training. You only have
to ask someone who has been placed in charge of helping graduate students
with their histology projects to know how true this is.

The ASCP exam, while it is not perfect is a first step in ensuring that
individuals have the basics. 

If we are going to work on anything lets work on improving the ASCP

I personally have a lot of problems with the practical portion where
automated machines are allowed to be used to prepare slides.



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