[Histonet] Re: Dumbing down the practical.

[Horn, Hazel V]

I too had to do both in 1973......

Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Arkansas Children's Hospital

Phone - 501.364.4240
Fax - 501.364.3912 

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mildred
Fail
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Dumbing down the practical.


'77 Peggy, had to do both, 
Rena Fail

>>> <lpwenk <@t> sbcglobal.net> 11/06/04 10:15PM >>>
For those who remember doing both an H&E and a special stain on the same
block - any chance this was BEFORE  1980, when I took my registry exam
and started helping students?

In my original response  to histonet, my note about ASCP not requiring
both an H&E and a special stain on the same block was in reference to my
time frame (post-1980).

I have heard from others, who took their exams in say the 1960's, that
did have to do both.

Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS
William Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, MI 48073


----- Original Message -----
From: "LuAnn Anderson" <ander093 <@t> tc.umn.edu>
To: "Susan Owens" <ohenry <@t> dfw.net>; "Histonet"
<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Dumbing down the practical.


> I also remember being required to do specials and H&E's on the same
blocks.
> If it turned out to be a bad section/sections--or bad tissue--it was 
> back to the drawing board!! Recuts or new tissue were then in order!! 
> AND, not to date myself, but everything was done by hand with the 
> exception of processing!! I too,believe that it is important have that

> "hands on" know how for troubleshooting purposes. JMHO. LuAnn
>
>
>
> At 01:12 PM 11/5/04, Susan Owens wrote:
> > >1. In all those years, there has never been a time that both the 
> > >H&E
and a
> > >special stain has been requested on the same tissue. That would be
double
> > >penalizing someone if they had a bad tissue.
> >
> >
> >
> >Well I don't agree. It's been a few years, but I seem to remember 
> >that I
did
> >special stains and H&E on select blocks when I took the exam(in 
> >1964)..
And
> >this thing about a 'double penalizing someone' for a bad 
> >tissue...Well
they
> >should not of used 'bad tissue' to begin with. And if they didn't 
> >know
the
> >tissue was 'bad' then they shouldn't of been taking the exam. I 
> >believe there are too many new faces in histoland that think they 
> >know
it
> >all and in truth they don't have a clue.
> >
> >ex: 1. A year or two ago I asked someone to make up a % solution of 
> >something(I don't remember what)..I was told they didn't know how. I
asked
> >'how could you not know,you have your HT?' They answered "that they
didn't
> >need to know, where they worked before they purchased everything."
> >       2. This year someone I know was taking the practical. 
> >According to them they were having a problem getting one of the 
> >special stains to
work.
> >SO, after several tries, they just put it on the auto stainer then 
> >sent
it
> >in with all the other slides.
> >
> >What did this person learn? NOTHING
> >And what did ASCP learn? NOTHING (Do they understand  they are 
> >handing
out
> >HT's to some people who don't know how to do the work?)
> >
> >These are just two examples, I could list allot more....But my blood 
> >pressure would go wild.
> >
> >Just keep smiling.
> >Susan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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