[Histonet] a question on ethics

Stephen.Eyres <@t> sanofi-synthelabo.com Stephen.Eyres <@t> sanofi-synthelabo.com
Fri Aug 13 07:56:12 CDT 2004


Don't run Ron, Ron, don't run Ron (there's a song that goes like that...
something about meeting someone on a Monday).  Seriously, though. I agree
with a previous respondent that you need to tell someone with lots of clout
to sort  make sure the mess is sorted out. From the patient's point of
view, the very fact you've raised the issue means that you're the best
person there to do the sorting out.  The person with the clout, will act as
your shield, though a bit of Kelvar might come in handy!!

Best of luck.


                      "Marshall Terry Dr,                                                                                                            
                      Consultant Histopathologist"           To:      <Jackie.O'Connor <@t> abbott.com>                                                   
                      <Terry.Marshall <@t> rothgen.nhs.uk         "Ron Martin" <pathrm35 <@t> adelphia.net>                                                    
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                      histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouth                                                                                                 
                      13/08/2004 13:40                                                                                                               

Yes,  Do run Ron run

Dr Terry L Marshall, B.A.(Law), M.B.,Ch.B.,F.R.C.Path
 Consultant Pathologist
 Rotherham General Hospital
 South Yorkshire
        terry.marshall <@t> rothgen.nhs.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie.O'Connor <@t> abbott.com [mailto:Jackie.O'Connor <@t> abbott.com]
Sent: 13 August 2004 13:32
To: Ron Martin
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] a question on ethics

Run Ron Run.

"Ron Martin" <pathrm35 <@t> adelphia.net>
Sent by: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
08/13/2004 04:27 AM

        To:     <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
        Subject:        [Histonet] a question on ethics

Fellow techs,
I am in a difficult situation and need some serious advice. I recently (4
months ago) accepted a technical supervisor position in a dermatology lab.
I went from a bench tech at my old job to this position. I also walked
away from a raise at my old position so I could step into a supervision
position. I took the new position because I was told by my manager that
she would teach me some supervision, management and financial skills that
I currently do not have as well as the growth potential of the
company.This position is not what I was told it would be. Part of my
"duties" include emptying the trash, clean the bathroom  (not happening)
and taking her personal and professional calls. The question on ethics is
the high volume of mistakes made by our technician, our offices and also
by my manager herself.
I caught a mistake made by our tech a few weeks ago.She put the wrong
tissue on the wrong slides as she inverted the two cases. I caught her
mistake before it went out. One time she assigned the same number to two
different cases. She then sent the correct case out for a consult (which
wasn't needed) and put the wrong patient name on the slide. Every other
day there is something different.My manager will not terminate her as she
knows I am seeking employment elsewhere and she cannot afford to lose a
One day my manager gave three cases the same accession number.She caught
her mistake on one of the cases but I still ended up with two cases with
the same number. When I first started there my manager had a case in which
there " was no tissue in the container". She said that she notified the
office about the situation however up to six weeks later the office was
still calling looking for results.At that point she wrote up an incident
report and dated it six weeks prior to coincide with the surgery date.
Our offices are not any better. One case came in with the wrong patient
information. It took about 7 weeks for the office to realize that they
sent the wrong patient information with the biopsy as the names were close
in spelling.  The offices continually send mistakes with incorrect
spelling of patients names and incorrect anatomical locations.
 I have tired to document everything but there are too many mistakes and I
don't have enough time or energy to keep up with them.My manager wants us
to do our own "internal quality control". My interpretation of this is
that she doesn't want our physician and risk manager to know of these
mistakes. Are these becoming common problems or is it just my situation?
I want to emphasize that I hope I am not being unethical myself for
revealing this information but I really need some advice and support.I
have very high standards and they are not being met in this current
situation. I am currently seeking a new position but I need employment and
cannot resign until another position becomes available. I would like to
stay in Florida and if anyone knows of any positions please inform me as I
am at my wits end. Thanks in advance.

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