[Histonet] RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 132, Issue 6
Cary Ward
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Wed Nov 5 12:35:51 CST 2014
When he let's us know, is he calling you or me?
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Today's Topics:
1. RE: Animal Tissue/Human Tissue (Anne Murvosh)
2. IHC Validation (Arrington, Karla A)
3. cardiac leaflet processing (Helen Ilsley)
4. RE: IHC Validation (Sebree Linda A)
5. RE: Vantage in Grossing Room (Michael Mihalik)
6. RE: Vantage in Grossing Room (Morken, Timothy)
7. B-5 fixative (Moe, Barbi A)
8. RE: Vantage in Grossing Room (Michael Mihalik)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:12:45 +0000
From: Anne Murvosh <amurvosh <@t> advancederm.net>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Animal Tissue/Human Tissue
To: Matthew Lauterbach <Matthew.Lauterbach <@t> avera.org>,
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My first job was at a lab that did both human and animal (till a case got
mixed up) the only difference I found was animals were fattier and hairier.
Same microtome. Anne
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Subject: [Histonet] Animal Tissue/Human Tissue
Has anyone used the same microtome to cut animal tissue as well as human
tissue? We are a hospital clinical Histology lab being asked to provide
research study slides from nonhuman sources. Anyone have an input or
precedence? I couldn't find anything that specifically prohibits this
practice from the CAP. Thanks for the help in advance!!
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 04:26:51 +0000
From: "Arrington, Karla A" <kaarrington <@t> anthc.org>
Subject: [Histonet] IHC Validation
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I am validating IHC's. What is the CAP requirements regarding negative
slides. I've asked CAP but have not received a response.
Are 10 negative patient tissues ran for each antibody using the negative
protocol or are they ran using each antibody but also a known
Negative control ran using the negative protocol?
Thanks!
Karla Arrington, HT (ASCP) HIT (AHIMA)
Supervisor of Pathology
ANMC Pathology
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 06:35:54 +0000
From: Helen Ilsley <helen.ilsley <@t> uct.ac.za>
Subject: [Histonet] cardiac leaflet processing
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HI
Does anyone have any experience with the processing of cardiac leaflets, I
am finding they tend to curl and make orientation and embedding difficult.
I am now laying them flat between some foam and hoping that this will work
as I am sure it is going into the wax that makes the leaflet curl They look
fine as they come out of the last xylene before entering the wax.
Can one get wax that has a lower melting point than 55C
Any advice would be appreciated.
Tx
Helen Ilsley
Chief Medical Technologist
Cardiovascular Research Unit
UCT
Anzio Road
Observatory
Cape Town
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 13:36:54 +0000
From: Sebree Linda A <LSebree <@t> uwhealth.org>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: IHC Validation
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Karla,
We try to run 1/2 of the required cases with known negative cases and the
other 1/2 with known positive cases. In addition, all cases are run with a
negative reagent control in place of the antibody using the optimized
protocol for the antibody. These are your negative reagent controls.
Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics
IHC/ISH Laboratory
600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596
FAX: (608)262-7174
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Karla A
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Subject: [Histonet] IHC Validation
I am validating IHC's. What is the CAP requirements regarding negative
slides. I've asked CAP but have not received a response.
Are 10 negative patient tissues ran for each antibody using the negative
protocol or are they ran using each antibody but also a known Negative
control ran using the negative protocol?
Thanks!
Karla Arrington, HT (ASCP) HIT (AHIMA)
Supervisor of Pathology
ANMC Pathology
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:12:26 -0500
From: "Michael Mihalik" <mike <@t> pathview.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
To: "'Amber McKenzie'" <amber.mckenzie <@t> gastrodocs.net>, "'Tom
McNemar'" <TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org>, "'Morken, Timothy'"
<Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsfmedctr.org>, "'Histonet'"
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Amber, at the risk of exposing my ignorance, doesnt AB&T and Vantage offer
very similar functionality? I'm just curious why you would have both?
As to your question, if you have some validation process occurring at
grossing that requires information from your Copath system, then perhaps you
might want to use Copath at grossing. For instance, if you scan
requisitions or manual drawings or anything of that nature and you require
those scanned images or other information to be verified at grossing, you
might want to use Copath for grossing IF that information is not being sent
across the interface from Copath to Vantage.
I hope Im making sense, but if not, please feel free to ask for
clarification.
Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369
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To: Tom McNemar; 'Morken, Timothy'; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
For those of you who have Vantage, in your grossing room do you have
Vantage set up or your LIS system? I was thinking it should be vantage, but
our Co-path person said we should have AB&T set up in the grossing room and
let vantage start at embedding, microtomy and case assembly. What are your
thoughts? Do you have a full computer, keyboard, and scanner in grossing?
Thanks!
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:05:30 +0000
From: "Morken, Timothy" <Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsfmedctr.org>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
To: 'Michael Mihalik' <mike <@t> pathview.com>, 'Amber McKenzie'
<amber.mckenzie <@t> gastrodocs.net>, 'Tom McNemar'
<TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org>, 'Histonet'
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Cerner Copath AB&T will not interact in a bi-directional way with a third
party tracking system (except to get "status" updates, ie when a block is
scanned at embedding Vantage will send a message to Copath to update the
block status). That is, you cannot enter a block or stain order in the third
party system and have the data be written back to the Copath database. You
must enter all in Copath and then the third party system picks it up from
there. That is why Copath was telling Anita that they would need to use
Copath alone at grossing (and accessioning, and all stain ordering). Also,
You must buy and install AB&T to use any third party tracking system (AB&T
is the HL7 interface).
Tim Morken
Supervisor, Histology, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA
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Mihalik
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
Amber, at the risk of exposing my ignorance, doesnt AB&T and Vantage offer
very similar functionality? I'm just curious why you would have both?
As to your question, if you have some validation process occurring at
grossing that requires information from your Copath system, then perhaps you
might want to use Copath at grossing. For instance, if you scan
requisitions or manual drawings or anything of that nature and you require
those scanned images or other information to be verified at grossing, you
might want to use Copath for grossing IF that information is not being sent
across the interface from Copath to Vantage.
I hope I'm making sense, but if not, please feel free to ask for
clarification.
Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369
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McKenzie
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:49 AM
To: Tom McNemar; 'Morken, Timothy'; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
For those of you who have Vantage, in your grossing room do you have
Vantage set up or your LIS system? I was thinking it should be vantage, but
our Co-path person said we should have AB&T set up in the grossing room and
let vantage start at embedding, microtomy and case assembly. What are your
thoughts? Do you have a full computer, keyboard, and scanner in grossing?
Thanks!
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:53:11 +0000
From: "Moe, Barbi A" <BAMoe <@t> gundersenhealth.org>
Subject: [Histonet] B-5 fixative
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Can anyone tell me why B-5 fixative is called "B-5"?
Does the "B" stand for something, or does the "5" have a meaning?
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated!
Barb Moe
Histology Lab
Gundersen Health System
La Crosse WI
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:08:43 -0500
From: "Michael Mihalik" <mike <@t> pathview.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
To: "'Morken, Timothy'" <Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsfmedctr.org>, "'Amber
McKenzie'" <amber.mckenzie <@t> gastrodocs.net>, "'Tom McNemar'"
<TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org>, "'Histonet'"
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So AB&T is the actual interface, not their barcode and tracking system?
I understand about the ordering of blocks and stains, etc.
Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:06 AM
To: 'Michael Mihalik'; 'Amber McKenzie'; 'Tom McNemar'; 'Histonet'
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
Cerner Copath AB&T will not interact in a bi-directional way with a third
party tracking system (except to get "status" updates, ie when a block is
scanned at embedding Vantage will send a message to Copath to update the
block status). That is, you cannot enter a block or stain order in the third
party system and have the data be written back to the Copath database. You
must enter all in Copath and then the third party system picks it up from
there. That is why Copath was telling Anita that they would need to use
Copath alone at grossing (and accessioning, and all stain ordering). Also,
You must buy and install AB&T to use any third party tracking system (AB&T
is the HL7 interface).
Tim Morken
Supervisor, Histology, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA
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Mihalik
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:12 AM
To: 'Amber McKenzie'; 'Tom McNemar'; Morken, Timothy; 'Histonet'
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
Amber, at the risk of exposing my ignorance, doesnt AB&T and Vantage offer
very similar functionality? I'm just curious why you would have both?
As to your question, if you have some validation process occurring at
grossing that requires information from your Copath system, then perhaps you
might want to use Copath at grossing. For instance, if you scan
requisitions or manual drawings or anything of that nature and you require
those scanned images or other information to be verified at grossing, you
might want to use Copath for grossing IF that information is not being sent
across the interface from Copath to Vantage.
I hope I'm making sense, but if not, please feel free to ask for
clarification.
Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:49 AM
To: Tom McNemar; 'Morken, Timothy'; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Vantage in Grossing Room
For those of you who have Vantage, in your grossing room do you have
Vantage set up or your LIS system? I was thinking it should be vantage, but
our Co-path person said we should have AB&T set up in the grossing room and
let vantage start at embedding, microtomy and case assembly. What are your
thoughts? Do you have a full computer, keyboard, and scanner in grossing?
Thanks!
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