[Histonet] RE: IHC antibody optimizing & validating

joelle weaver joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com
Tue Mar 25 14:45:30 CDT 2014


TMAs are great if that is one of your options, but unless you make them you have the PA issues that might enter in. CAP does gives specifics, but  I was just giving the information and process that is currently in place where I presently work to hopefully help, not trying to supersede CAP guidelines for sure- where would that land me?




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:34:30 -0400
> From: tbraud <@t> holyredeemer.com
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: IHC antibody optimizing & validating 
> 
> CAP is very clear that in order to validate a new antibody, that: "once
> the stain has been optimized, that for a well characterized antibody
> with a limited spectrum of antigenic targets, like Chromogranin or PSA,
> the validation can be limited.  A panel of 10 positive and 10 negative
> neoplasms would be sufficient in this setting.  For an antibody that is
> not well characterized and/or has a wide range of reported reactivity, a
> more extensive validation is necessary.  The number of tissues tested
> should in the circumstance be large enough to determine whether the
> staining profile matches that previously described.  An exception to the
> above requirements is that studies nay not be feasible for antigens such
> as ALK that are only seen in rare tumors."
> Thus sayeth CAP.
> And if you're like me, I am not digging through all my cases to try to
> come up with 30-40 neoplasms for each antibody, so I just order Tissue
> Micro Arrays with the neoplasms I need.  20 positive and 20 negative
> neoplastic tissues on one slide for easy staining and validation.  The
> money you save on reagents to stain one little slide, more than makes up
> for the cost of the slide.
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Terri L. Braud, HT(ASCP)
> Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
> Holy Redeemer Hospital Laboratory
> 1648 Huntingdon Pike
> Meadowbrook, PA 19046
> Ph: 215-938-3676
> Fax: 215-938-3874
> 
> Today's Topics:
>    8. IHC antibody optimizing & validating (Davis, Cassie)
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:51:07 -0400
> From: "Davis, Cassie" <CDavis <@t> che-east.org>
> Subject: [Histonet] IHC antibody optimizing & validating
> 
> Will you help me? I understand we are to use the known positives
> controls that the manufactures' recommends in the package insert when
> optimizing the stains, but I need to know what is your general procedure
> for optimizing (how many different staining protocols do you test) and
> validating a new antibody (how many different or "known" positive and
> negative tissues do you test [predictive markers I understand are 20])?
> 
> Cassandra Davis
> CDavis <@t> che-east.org
> 302-575-8095
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