[Histonet] Re: Lens vs sponges
Sue
suetp918 <@t> comcast.net
Tue Feb 18 15:30:10 CST 2014
We do not use sponges too much of a chance of floaters. Also aggregates of tissues end up in sponge and then is embedded
Just my thoughts
S Paturzo
TJUH
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> On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Sanjeet Dhirubhai <asanjeet <@t> yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hi Histo Folks,
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> We are debating on what we should use during grossing either lens papers or sponges.
> We are currently using sponges. And in the near future we will be moving to another Lab, basically a merger of 2 Histo depts. The other Lab uses lens papers. I need to know the pros and cons of Sponges verses lens paper.
> with sponges there is carrier over of reagents. Is there any other or any major disadvantages of using sponges. Our reagent maintenance is done everyday and is standard. We do not go by the reagent management alerts from the Tissue Processor.
> Help
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> Regards,
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> Sanjeet Dhirubhai
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> 1. Price for preparing IHC slides (Ann
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> 3. IHC cartilage (Victoria Rimkunas)
> 4. Re: Turn Around Time (Jay Lundgren)
> 5. dust-free coverslips - do they really
> exist? (Connolly, Brett M)
> 6. Re: Turn Around Time (Rene J Buesa)
> 7. RE: Price for preparing IHC slides (Joe
> W. Walker, Jr.)
> 8. Re: Price for preparing IHC slides
> (Michael Farmer)
> 9. RE: Turn Around Time (Martha
> Ward-Pathology)
> 10. Re: Turn Around Time (Bob Richmond)
> 11. RE: Turn Around Time (Joe W. Walker, Jr.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:03:28 -0500 (EST)
> From: Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
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> Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing an IHC
> slide?
> thanks, Ann
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> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:08:28 -0500
> From: Will Chappell <chapcl <@t> yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
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> A lab I used in Southern California charged $35 per
> stain for most antibodies.
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>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>
> wrote:
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>>
>> Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing an
> IHC slide?
>> thanks, Ann
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:29:18 +0000
> From: Victoria Rimkunas <VRimkunas <@t> merrimackpharma.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] IHC cartilage
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> Does anyone have experience or a protocol for IHC staining
> on cartilage?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:31:44 -0600
> From: Jay Lundgren <jaylundgren <@t> gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> To: joelle weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>
> Cc: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>,
> Tom McNemar
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> Yesterday.
>
> Sincerely?
>
> Jay A. Lundgren, M.S.,
> HTL (ASCP)
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> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:56 AM, joelle weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>wrote:
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>> ditto. Only FISH is allowed to take longer
>>
>>
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>>
>> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
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>>> To: drbugge <@t> gmail.com;
> histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:49:14 -0500
>>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>>> CC:
>>>
>>> Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of
> cases. We provide same-day
>> service for recuts and most in-house special stains.
>>>
>>> Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>>> Histology Supervisor
>>> Licking Memorial Health Systems
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>>> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
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>>> Hello Histonet
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>>> I am just curious what the standard for Turn
> Around Time is for most
>> labs.
>>> I think a two day turn around time from the time
> the biopsy gets to the
>> lab
>>> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is
> pretty fast.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>> --
>>> Dawn R Bugge
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:35:22 -0500
> From: "Connolly, Brett M" <brett_connolly <@t> merck.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] dust-free coverslips - do they really
> exist?
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> What's your favorite? It gets frustrating when I need
> to capture low power images and there coverslips are dirty
> right out of the box.
>
> Fisherfinest Premium isn't bad, but I am wondering if there
> is something better???
>
> Brett
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> From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> To: Tom McNemar <TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org>,
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> In the US the "standard" (or most frequent) TAT is 24 hours.
> In other countries the TAT varies greatly, in extreme cases
> up to 1 week for surgicals!
> René J.
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> Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 12:49 PM
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> Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of cases. We provide
> same-day service for recuts and most in-house special
> stains.
>
> Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
> Histology Supervisor
> Licking Memorial Health Systems
> (740) 348-4163
> (740) 348-4166
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>
> Hello Histonet
>
> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is
> for most labs.
> I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy
> gets to the lab
> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty
> fast.
>
> Thanks for your input.
> --
> Dawn R Bugge
> Seattle Histology
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> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:43:49 +0000
> From: "Joe W. Walker, Jr." <joewalker <@t> rrmc.org>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
> To: Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>,
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> I believe that this would be highly dependent on the
> antibodies used, how often the antibodies are used, slide
> costs, tech costs, overhead, etc. What would be
> average for 1 institution might be above or below average
> for another.
>
> What are you trying to determine, Ann?
>
> Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
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>
> Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing an IHC
> slide?
> thanks, Ann
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:32 -0500
> From: Michael Farmer <michael <@t> mcevoyandfarmer.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
> To: Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>
> Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> This is a fascinating question, Ann -
>
> I've been studying this topic for the last couple of years
> in five countries. While I do not yet understand this
> complex phenomenon as well as I would wish to, these are my
> impressions about life here in the US. It is a ridiculous
> tale, but I will tell it to you...
>
> The smartest shoppers who have the biggest contracts (you
> can guess who those might be) are paying $5-10 for their
> highest-volume slides - ER, PR, HER-2 and a few others
> - but more like $10-15 for most of their menus. The
> smallest IHC customers think they are paying 20-something
> per slide, but they are actually paying $30-$40 per slide -
> and more in many cases.
>
> How this discrepancy? Two reasons: first, because the
> suppliers (I can't quite remember their names right now,
> please pardon my senior moment) are highly-skilled at making
> their price lists and service contracts as eye-glazingly
> complicated as possible. And second, because immutable human
> nature compels many mere mortals to underestimate their
> costs, particularly while they are still trying to
> rationalize a bad investment they made some time ago
>
> I'm pretty sure that American labs (excluding Canada, mind
> you) spent $700-750m with the IHC companies in 2013. I
> think that between 28m and 32 million IHC slides were run
> last year in the US. If you want to slice those estimates
> down the middle you'll come up with maybe $24/slide, once
> every penny of waste, service, and sub-optimal operating
> procedures are truly accounted for.
>
> There you have one of the most useless averages you'll ever
> hear. There are plenty of contracts out there in vast middle
> America at every price point between $7 and $30 per slide.
> You pay what your volume earns you, unless of course you
> happen to be in the market for a tissue processor or primary
> stainer at the time you're haggling with the IHC companies.
> I'll remember their names if you give me another a minute.
>
> That's the way it was last year. WIth these new codes, lots
> of small labs will be priced out of the IHC business by
> summertime, and the big labs that remain will have
> negotiated prices within a narrower range. That'll be a
> fast-moving target. Since I didn't see you in the crowd at
> the funeral of 88342 last month, I am attaching below our
> chronicle of the event.
>
> I'm always happy to banter about this with anyone who thinks
> the topic is interesting.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Michael Farmer
> McEvoy & Farmer Pathology
> www.mcevoyandfarmer-pathology.com
> 415-994-8852
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> "Those who seek the truth doubt those who find it"
> - André Gide
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>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Ann Specian wrote:
>>
>>
>> Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing an
> IHC slide?
>> thanks, Ann
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 19:05:47 +0000
> From: Martha Ward-Pathology <mward <@t> wakehealth.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> To: Dawn Bugge <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>,
> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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> While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases,
> I also subscribe to the theory that "speed
> kills". I'm not sure that these quick TATs
> are always medically necessary, but rather more of a
> convenience. However that is another discussion
> altogether. That said, our institution shoots for the
> 80% in 24 hours as well.
>
>
>
> Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
> Manager
>
> Molecular Diagnostics Lab
> Medical Center Boulevard \ Winston-Salem, NC 27157
> p 336.716.2109 \ f 336.716.5890
> mward <@t> wakehealth.edu
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>
> Hello Histonet
>
> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is
> for most labs.
> I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy
> gets to the lab to the time the pathologist signs out a case
> is pretty fast.
>
> Thanks for your input.
> --
> Dawn R Bugge
> Seattle Histology
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:50:45 -0500
> From: Bob Richmond <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] Re: Turn Around Time
> To: "Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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> Dawn R. Bugge at Seattle WA Histology asks:
>
>>> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around
> Time is for most
> labs. I think a two day turn around time from the time the
> biopsy gets to
> the lab to the time the pathologist signs out a case is
> pretty fast.<<
>
> Normally I'd receive the specimen on Monday and gross it,
> have it processed
> overnight, get the slides some time Tuesday morning, and
> sign the case out
> well before close of business on Tuesday.
>
> Exceptions are when the specimen needs to fix overnight
> before I gross it
> (bowel resection) or after I gross it (fatty breast tissue,
> amputation
> specimens, autopsies), or when a specimen of more than
> minimal size (or
> received after 1400) requires decalcification. What I say
> goes.
>
> Bob Richmond
> Samurai Pathologist
> Maryville TN
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 19:54:21 +0000
> From: "Joe W. Walker, Jr." <joewalker <@t> rrmc.org>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> To: Martha Ward-Pathology <mward <@t> wakehealth.edu>,
> Dawn Bugge
> <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>,
> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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> I agree with you, Martha. That is why we look at it
> from an average of all cases for the month. We
> definitely encounter cases that are difficult and require
> more time with our pathologists. We track the TAT for
> statistical purposes only. The CAP (for those who are
> CAP accredited) has dropped this from their checklist for
> surgical cases. It seems to only really apply to
> autopsy cases now but these has a much different TAT
> target.
>
> Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
> Manager of Anatomical Pathology, Microbiology and Reference
> Rutland Regional Medical Center
> 160 Allen Street, Rutland, VT 05701
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Martha Ward-Pathology
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 2:06 PM
> To: Dawn Bugge; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>
> While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases,
> I also subscribe to the theory that "speed
> kills". I'm not sure that these quick TATs
> are always medically necessary, but rather more of a
> convenience. However that is another discussion
> altogether. That said, our institution shoots for the
> 80% in 24 hours as well.
>
>
>
> Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
> Manager
>
> Molecular Diagnostics Lab
> Medical Center Boulevard \ Winston-Salem, NC
> 27157 p 336.716.2109 \ f 336.716.5890 mward <@t> wakehealth.edu
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>
> Hello Histonet
>
> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is
> for most labs.
> I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy
> gets to the lab to the time the pathologist signs out a case
> is pretty fast.
>
> Thanks for your input.
> --
> Dawn R Bugge
> Seattle Histology
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:37:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> To: Martha Ward-Pathology <mward <@t> wakehealth.edu>,
> Dawn Bugge
> <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>,
> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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> Martha:
> So, do you mean that you are not satisfied with the quality
> of your slides?
> If you are, I just do not understand your concerns about a
> 24 h TAT!
> The fundamental issue is to develop adequate protocols
> assuring quality as well as a convenient (24 h) TAT.
> Just my 3 cents (after inflation!)
> René J.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Martha Ward-Pathology <mward <@t> wakehealth.edu>
> To: Dawn Bugge <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>;
> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>
> Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>
>
> While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases,
> I also subscribe to the theory that "speed kills". I'm not
> sure that these quick TATs are always medically necessary,
> but rather more of a convenience. However that is
> another discussion altogether. That said, our institution
> shoots for the 80% in 24 hours as well.
>
>
>
> Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
> Manager
>
> Molecular Diagnostics Lab
> Medical Center Boulevard \ Winston-Salem, NC 27157
> p 336.716.2109 \ f 336.716.5890
> mward <@t> wakehealth.edu
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>
> Hello Histonet
>
> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is
> for most labs.
> I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy
> gets to the lab to the time the pathologist signs out a case
> is pretty fast.
>
> Thanks for your input.
> --
> Dawn R Bugge
> Seattle Histology
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 21:58:51 +0000
> From: "Tony Henwood (SCHN)" <tony.henwood <@t> health.nsw.gov.au>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] How to De-stain trichrome
> To: "'Hans B Snyder'" <hans <@t> histologistics.com>,
> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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> Hi Hans,
>
> It is possible, though it will depend on what you want to do
> to the slides afterword.
> The problem arises from the use of phosphotungstic or
> phosphmolybdic acid which is used for differentiation and
> mordanting in the trichrome stains like Masson's.
> These are very difficult to reverse (anyone trying to
> restain PAP smears might know the problem). This may cause
> problems.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC),
> FFSc(RCPA)
> Laboratory Manager & Senior Scientist, the Children's
> Hospital at Westmead
> Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western
> Sydney
>
> Tel: 612 9845 3306
> Fax: 612 9845 3318
> Pathology Department
> the children's hospital at westmead
> Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
> Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Hans B Snyder
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014 1:54 AM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] How to De-stain trichrome
>
> Does anyone know how to destain Massons trichrome? Is it
> possible?
>
> Thank you
>
> Histologistics
> Hans B Snyder
> 508.308.7800
> Hans <@t> histologistics.com
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:26:00 -0800
> From: Madeleine Huey <madeleinehuey <@t> gmail.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 123, Issue 3
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> Dawn,
> Our TAT is 94% with 24 hours & 98% within 48 hours (~ 6%
> complicated cases
> need more IPOX/Molecular Study/FACS & etc.).
> Madeleine
> Superviser - Pathology (IPOX & Histology)
> madeleine_h <@t> elcaminohospital.org
>
>
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:
> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>>
>> Hello Histonet
>>
>> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around
> Time is for most labs.
>> I think a two day turn around time from the time the
> biopsy gets to the
> lab
>> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty
> fast.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>> --
>> Dawn R Bugge
>> Seattle Histology
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:00 AM,
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Re: Gross lab seniors (WILLIAM
> DESALVO)
>> 2. Re: protocols to fix insect wings that
> are quite hirsute (Damien)
>> 3. RE: Ventana LEAN (Tim Higgins)
>> 4. RE: RE: Ventana LEAN (Rathborne, Toni)
>> 5. How to De-stain trichrome (Hans B
> Snyder)
>> 6. Histotech position FT West Palm Beach
> (nicole <@t> dlcjax.com)
>> 7. anyone need a glass cover slipper
> (Curt)
>> 8. On-call position for Histology
> Assistant in Phoenix AZ (Jill Cox)
>> 9. RE: RE: Ventana LEAN (Eytalis, Robert
> A)
>> 10. Turn Around Time (Dawn Bugge)
>> 11. RE: Turn Around Time (Tom
> McNemar)
>> 12. RE: Turn Around Time (joelle
> weaver)
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:34:15 +0000
>> From: WILLIAM DESALVO <wdesalvo.cac <@t> outlook.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Gross lab seniors
>> To: E. Wayne Johnson ??? <ewj <@t> pigsqq.org>
>> Cc: histonet <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>,
> " Vickroy, Jim "
>> <vickroy.jim <@t> mhsil.com>
>> Message-ID: <COL402-EAS211FA5B8B1D0FD82EDF444A82A80 <@t> phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Absolutely the Face velocity changes with the work area
> set-up. This is
>> why I like to make sure the air flow away is
> maintained at a minimum. Most
>> grossing stations have large working area and often the
> flow away from the
>> grosser is not checked, just the vent opening draw.
> Most important is to
>> set up a process and then regularly check.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Windows Mail
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森
>> Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎February‎
> ‎1‎, ‎2014
> ‎3‎:‎12‎ ‎PM
>> To: WILLIAM DESALVO
>> Cc: Vickroy, Jim, histonet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Face velocity is simply the airflow rate in CFM divided
> by the area of
>> the hood opening in square feet.
>>
>> A smaller opening at the same flow rate gives a higher
> face velocity.
>>
>> Titanium tetrachloride in a small plastic squeeze
> bottle can be used to
>> generate "smoke".
>>
>>
>>> On 3:59 AM, WILLIAM DESALVO wrote:
>>> We use a company called C-Scan Technologies,
> Phoenix, AZ. The way they
>> test all our gross dissection stations is by testing
> for directional or
>> smoke containment and face velocity. We also check th
> they external pathway
>> is clear and if the unit has a filtering system, the
> filters are changed
>> regularly. The air flow measurement is Feet per minute
> (FPM) for face
>> velocity and includes width, height, depth and total
> square ft for the
>> working area. They exhaust flow in CFM. Face velocity
> minimum requirement
>> is 100 fpm, exhaust flow requirement is>500 cfm.
> Face velocity fluctuates
>> depending on the room and the air exchange rate for the
> area. I have always
>> felt the face velocity is most important to gross
> dissection personnel.
>> There needs to be adequate draw away from the employee,
> no matter the
>> physical conditions of the room.
>>>
>>> William DeSalvo, BS HTL(ASCP)
>>> Production Manager-Anatomic Pathology
>>> Chair, NSH Quality Management Committee
>>> Owner/Consultant, Collaborative Advantage
> Consulting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Vickroy.Jim <@t> mhsil.com
>>>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>>>> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 12:46:08 -0600
>>>> Subject: [Histonet] Gross lab seniors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have several gross lab senior grossing
> stations that are vented
>> outside. Our engineering asked today whether the
> airflow should be checked
>> yearly like other exhaust
> hoods. Problem is there is not a door like
>> other hoods of course and how would you measure the
> airflow? Recommended
>> airflow is 500cfm however clearly the airflow at the
> working surface is not
>> anything close to that. I wondered how
> anybody else monitors the gross
>> lab seniors or do they at all. CAP
> used to ask about documentation for
>> checking hoods however I can't recall them ever
> checking on grossing
>> stations. We change filters annually only
> since they are vented outside.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> James Vickroy BS, HT(ASCP)
>>>>
>>>> Surgical and Autopsy Pathology Technical
> Supervisor
>>>> Memorial Medical Center
>>>> 217-788-4046
>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 05:40:33 -0500
>> From: Damien <dmlaud <@t> laudierhistology.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Histonet] protocols to fix insect wings
> that are quite
>> hirsute
>> To: Jack Ratliff <ratliffjack <@t> hotmail.com>
>> Cc: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
>> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID:
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> <CAE-eP6ZTjckOyGQYbOr+BxYvPksMBSYjzHD=
>> vq+Qrw55qKhWdQ <@t> mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi Jorge,
>>
>> I'd be happy to help you if I can. Please feel free to
> message me.
>>
>> Best,
>> Damien L
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Jack Ratliff <ratliffjack <@t> hotmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> This sounds like a question for the insect
> histology expert, Damien
>>> Laudier! He monitors this site so I am sure he
> will respond to you
>>> privately. :)
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:00 PM, "Jorge A.
> Santiago-Blay" <
>>> blayjorge <@t> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>> Can someone point me on the direction of
> protocols to fix insect wings
>>> that
>>>> are quite hirsute. I would like to increase
> the likelihood of the
>>>> preservative actually going through the
> carpet of setae to actually fix
>>> the
>>>> interior of the wing. Thanks for any help.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Jorge
>>>>
>>>> Jorge A. Santiago-Blay, PhD
>>>> blaypublishers.com
>>>> http://blayjorge.wordpress.com/
>>>> http://paleobiology.si.edu/staff/individuals/santiagoblay.html
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Damien Laudier
>> Laudier Histology
>> www.LaudierHistology.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:58:51 -0600
>> From: Tim Higgins <thigginsht <@t> msn.com>
>> Subject: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>> To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
>> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID: <BAY179-W129406D44F19F2613DCD01D8AB0 <@t> phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> They come in, give their opinions on how to make your
> workflow better. I
>> didn't get much from it, we didn't make any changes,
> more of a selling tool
>> in my opion. I guess if your workflow was
> terrible, they might be able to
>> offer good advice.
>>
>> On a positive, they were all very nice.
>>
>> Thank,
>> Tim H.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:32:59 +0000
>> From: "Rathborne, Toni" <trathborne <@t> somerset-healthcare.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>> To: "'Tim Higgins'" <thigginsht <@t> msn.com>,
>> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
>> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> 3AD061FE740D464FAC7BF6B5CFB75707A95B53C7 <@t> SMCMAIL01.somerset-healthcare.com
>>>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Another benefit of someone coming in from the outside
> (Leica did the same
>> for us), is that since this is what these people do
> every day, management
>> is more likely to listen to their suggestions. If it's
> the same as yours
>> then that would reinforce your current plans. If it's
> different than what
>> you had in mind, they will generally try to help with
> what you want to do.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:
>> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Tim Higgins
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:59 AM
>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>>
>> They come in, give their opinions on how to make your
> workflow better. I
>> didn't get much from it, we didn't make any changes,
> more of a selling tool
>> in my opion. I guess if your workflow was
> terrible, they might be able to
>> offer good advice.
>>
>> On a positive, they were all very nice.
>>
>> Thank,
>> Tim H.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:53:45 -0500
>> From: Hans B Snyder <hans <@t> histologistics.com>
>> Subject: [Histonet] How to De-stain trichrome
>> To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
>> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID: <ED90154D-C730-42DB-8779-F628427C0F40 <@t> histologistics.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Does anyone know how to destain Massons trichrome? Is
> it possible?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Histologistics
>> Hans B Snyder
>> 508.308.7800
>> Hans <@t> histologistics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 15:19:07 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: nicole <@t> dlcjax.com
>> Subject: [Histonet] Histotech position FT West Palm
> Beach
>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Message-ID:
> <1940731504.67335.1391440747343.JavaMail.mail <@t> webmail17>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>>
>> Posting
> for I/MD Path labs West Palm
> Beach, Florida Looking for
>> full time Histotech.
> Dermpath lab. Please contact
> Dr. Morales.
>> 1(561)653-8005
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:06:56 +0000
>> From: Curt <c.tague <@t> Pathologyarts.com>
>> Subject: [Histonet] anyone need a glass cover slipper
>> To: "Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
>> <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <9C8F910F72893643B3C3793C3D67132B01440853 <@t> PATHOLOGYSERVER.pathologyarts.local
>>>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> We have on old Hacker glass cover slipper, I think
> it's a Hacker.... The
>> name plate on the front says Meisei but I'm told it's a
> Hacker. Anyway, the
>> model number: RCM-3660 if that's helpful.
>>
>> I'm not looking to make a bunch of money, so many
> people here have been
>> helpful over the years from knowledge and advice to
> helping me out with
>> control tissue.
>>
>> If someone needs one, I'd be willing to help out a bit,
> just need to cover
>> the expense of shipping and packing.
>>
>> Let me know, I can snap a picture if desired. We
> recently had is serviced
>> and it's said to be working fine by the technician.
>>
>>
>> Curt
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 08:58:56 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Jill Cox <jcox90 <@t> yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Histonet] On-call position for Histology
> Assistant in
>> Phoenix AZ
>> To: "Histonet <@t> Lists. Edu" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1391446736.89252.YahooMailBasic <@t> web160701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hi Netters,
>> We are looking for an on-call histology assistant to
> cover for vacations
>> and sick leave, already have a few days in March/April.
> We are a small
>> Dermatology lab in NW Peoria AZ, great working
> conditions and people. Very
>> nice place to work. Hours are from 7:30-4:00PM when
> needed. Email me for
>> more details.
>> Thank you, Jill
>>
>> Arrowhead Dermatology
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:00:28 +0000
>> From: "Eytalis, Robert A" <Robert-Eytalis <@t> RiversideHealthCare.net>
>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>> To: "Rathborne, Toni" <trathborne <@t> somerset-healthcare.com>,
> "'Tim
>> Higgins'"
> <thigginsht <@t> msn.com>,
> "
>> histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
>> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> F3024E541CBF9049BD4A805E1646204A6F8CE5A0 <@t> RHCMBX02.RiversideHealthCare.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Depends on if your management is skeptical of vendors.
> Mine automatically
>> assume that they are marketing to us.
>>
>> Robert A. Eytalis
>> Laboratory Manager
>> robert-eytalis <@t> riversidehealthcare.net
>> Phone: (815) 935-7256 ext. 5186
>>
> (815) 935-7535
>> Fax (815)
> 935-7068
>>
>> Riverside Medical Center
>> 350 N. Wall Street - Kankakee, IL 60901
>>
>>
>>
>> http://mail.riversidehealthcare.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=qIzWpCGMNkq2SuiIt1v_2X7GmC1aOtAI7VlOiEQ974hhCQzwyDH6yJklmjoBIK92OWDFwivhIZs.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.riversidemc.net%2f
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>> http://mail.riversidehealthcare.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=qIzWpCGMNkq2SuiIt1v_2X7GmC1aOtAI7VlOiEQ974hhCQzwyDH6yJklmjoBIK92OWDFwivhIZs.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.facebook.com%2fRiversideMC
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [
>> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> on behalf of Rathborne, Toni [
>> trathborne <@t> somerset-healthcare.com]
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:32 AM
>> To: 'Tim Higgins'; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>>
>> Another benefit of someone coming in from the outside
> (Leica did the same
>> for us), is that since this is what these people do
> every day, management
>> is more likely to listen to their suggestions. If it's
> the same as yours
>> then that would reinforce your current plans. If it's
> different than what
>> you had in mind, they will generally try to help with
> what you want to do.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:
>> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Tim Higgins
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:59 AM
>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>>
>> They come in, give their opinions on how to make your
> workflow better. I
>> didn't get much from it, we didn't make any changes,
> more of a selling tool
>> in my opion. I guess if your workflow was
> terrible, they might be able to
>> offer good advice.
>>
>> On a positive, they were all very nice.
>>
>> Thank,
>> Tim H.
>>
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:43:06 -0800
>> From: Dawn Bugge <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>> To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
>> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hello Histonet
>>
>> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around
> Time is for most labs.
>> I think a two day turn around time from the time the
> biopsy gets to the lab
>> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty
> fast.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>> --
>> Dawn R Bugge
>> Seattle Histology
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:49:14 -0500
>> From: Tom McNemar <TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>> To: 'Dawn Bugge' <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>,
>> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
>> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of cases. We
> provide same-day
>> service for recuts and most in-house special stains.
>>
>> Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>> Histology Supervisor
>> Licking Memorial Health Systems
>> (740) 348-4163
>> (740) 348-4166
>> tmcnemar <@t> lmhealth.org
>> www.LMHealth.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:
>> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>>
>> Hello Histonet
>>
>> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around
> Time is for most labs.
>> I think a two day turn around time from the time the
> biopsy gets to the lab
>> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty
> fast.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>> --
>> Dawn R Bugge
>> Seattle Histology
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:56:47 +0000
>> From: joelle weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>> To: Tom McNemar <tmcnemar <@t> lmhealth.org>,
> 'Dawn Bugge'
>> <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>,
> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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>> ditto. Only FISH is allowed to take longer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
>>
>>> From: TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org
>>> To: drbugge <@t> gmail.com;
> histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:49:14 -0500
>>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>>> CC:
>>>
>>> Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of
> cases. We provide same-day
>> service for recuts and most in-house special stains.
>>>
>>> Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
>>> Histology Supervisor
>>> Licking Memorial Health Systems
>>> (740) 348-4163
>>> (740) 348-4166
>>> tmcnemar <@t> lmhealth.org
>>> www.LMHealth.org
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:
>> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
>>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
>>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>>> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>>>
>>> Hello Histonet
>>>
>>> I am just curious what the standard for Turn
> Around Time is for most
>> labs.
>>> I think a two day turn around time from the time
> the biopsy gets to the
>> lab
>>> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is
> pretty fast.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>> --
>>> Dawn R Bugge
>>> Seattle Histology
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:27:38 -0500
> From: Mike Thompson <mike <@t> dbiosys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
> To: Michael Farmer <michael <@t> mcevoyandfarmer.com>
> Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu,
> Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>
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> Read our motto below. I've worked for the big IHC
> companies. Now we will place everything at $10/slide w
> antibody. Instrument included.
>
>
> Michael O. Thompson
> Director of Sales
> Diagnostic BioSystems
> Phone: 1-888-896-3350
> Mobile: 412-860-1288
> Office Fax: 412-727-6080
>
> "IHC Made Affordable"
> www.dbiosys.com
>
> Michael Farmer <michael <@t> mcevoyandfarmer.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is a fascinating question, Ann -
>>
>> I've been studying this topic for the last couple of
> years in five countries. While I do not yet understand this
> complex phenomenon as well as I would wish to, these are my
> impressions about life here in the US. It is a ridiculous
> tale, but I will tell it to you...
>>
>> The smartest shoppers who have the biggest contracts
> (you can guess who those might be) are paying $5-10 for
> their highest-volume slides - ER, PR, HER-2 and a few
> others - but more like $10-15 for most of their menus.
> The smallest IHC customers think they are paying
> 20-something per slide, but they are actually paying $30-$40
> per slide - and more in many cases.
>>
>> How this discrepancy? Two reasons: first, because the
> suppliers (I can't quite remember their names right now,
> please pardon my senior moment) are highly-skilled at making
> their price lists and service contracts as eye-glazingly
> complicated as possible. And second, because immutable human
> nature compels many mere mortals to underestimate their
> costs, particularly while they are still trying to
> rationalize a bad investment they made some time ago
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that American labs (excluding Canada,
> mind you) spent $700-750m with the IHC companies in
> 2013. I think that between 28m and 32 million IHC slides
> were run last year in the US. If you want to slice those
> estimates down the middle you'll come up with maybe
> $24/slide, once every penny of waste, service, and
> sub-optimal operating procedures are truly accounted for.
>>
>> There you have one of the most useless averages you'll
> ever hear. There are plenty of contracts out there in vast
> middle America at every price point between $7 and $30 per
> slide. You pay what your volume earns you, unless of course
> you happen to be in the market for a tissue processor or
> primary stainer at the time you're haggling with the IHC
> companies. I'll remember their names if you give me another
> a minute.
>>
>> That's the way it was last year. WIth these new codes,
> lots of small labs will be priced out of the IHC business by
> summertime, and the big labs that remain will have
> negotiated prices within a narrower range. That'll be a
> fast-moving target. Since I didn't see you in the crowd at
> the funeral of 88342 last month, I am attaching below our
> chronicle of the event.
>>
>> I'm always happy to banter about this with anyone who
> thinks the topic is interesting.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>> McEvoy & Farmer Pathology
>> www.mcevoyandfarmer-pathology.com
>> 415-994-8852
>>
>> "Those who seek the truth doubt those who find it"
>> - André Gide
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Ann Specian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing
> an IHC slide?
>>> thanks, Ann
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