[Histonet] Unregistered HT

Tue Sep 10 18:35:45 CDT 2013

Exactly Jennifer!

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On 9/10/2013 6:32 PM, Jennifer MacDonald wrote:
> As long as we do not need certification, licensure and minium education
> requirements we will not be recognized as Laboratory Professionals.
>
>
>
> From:   "Marcum, Pamela A" <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu>
> To:     "'joelle weaver'" <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>, "'Emily Sours'"
> <talulahgosh <@t> gmail.com>, "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Date:   09/10/2013 01:12 PM
> Subject:        RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
> Sent by:        histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>
>
>
> I agree we have huge gray areas and not all histology schools are as good
> as they could be for what we are facing in Histology.  I keep harping on
> the fact that until we are recognized as Laboratory Professionals we will
> stay in this limbo.  The rules determining complex testing should be
> revisited to what is done in Histology Laboratories today and not what we
> did 30 or more years ago.  The Clinical Laboratory is now so automated it
> is hard to find anyone in most areas who can even remember doing any
> manual testing.  The Micro lab is the closest to being as manual as areas
> of Histology.
>
> I am in a small market and finding a registered Histologist is harder for
> us.  I would love to have 8 to choose from and interview.
>
> Pam Marcum
>
> From: joelle weaver [mailto:joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 2:59 PM
> To: Marcum, Pamela A; 'Emily Sours'; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
>
>   Well I am  mostly clinical...but I think that organizations can set
> standards outside and beyond what CAP,CLIA etc stipulate. For the position
> I have now, I had to submit all my transcripts from high school up through
> masters in addition to  proof of my ASCP certification, IHC qualification,
> continuing education, and professional association activity. There is a
> lot of gray area out there. They seem to have not had trouble getting
> applicants though ( and I know this varies by market), there were over 8
> candidates for an HT opening, which I thought was a pretty good turn out.
>
>
> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
>
>> From: PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu
>> To: talulahgosh <@t> gmail.com; joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com
>> CC: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
>> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:53:26 +0000
>>
>> Research is a different area and not controlled by CAP, CLIA and other
> hospital licensing or accreditation organizations. We are bound by the
> rules of these organizations and while I agree with you to a point. We do
> need minimums for training and registration by recognized licensing bodies
> when patient tissue is being processed for histological examination. I am
> sure no one thinks of this often however; there are medical legal issues
> with insurance we have that do not apply for research. It is also clear
> that registration does not mean we don't have registered people who are
> not as good as they should be for excellent patient care.
>> I have worked in research and while I would not ever say the hiring of
> non-registered people is a problem for research. It is often a specialty
> area that requires knowing more than routine Histology. I have done
> plastics in research that could not ever be used in routine Histology due
> to the time factors and in some cases limited use with staining
> applications, especially IHC for some procedures. Many other areas in
> research require more specialized training than would be used in a routine
> area. I would also add some really great techs are in many phases of
> research. I know MT who work in Histology and are not registered as the MT
> BS, overrides the HT requirement for many institutions.
>> Many factors must be considered for both research and routine Histology
> that cover far more than just hiring registered people in certain areas of
> the laboratory.
>> Pam Marcum
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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> Sours
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>> To: joelle weaver
>> Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu<
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>> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
>>
>> Do employers consider lab techs to be proficient enough? I've been doing
> ISH and immuno for 13 years, but I'm not certified as I do research. Maybe
> there aren't a lot of lab techs out there? Just wondering since you might
> be missing someone awesome by hiring only certified people.
>> "By bitching and bitching and bitching, they could exhaust the drama of
> their own horror stories. Grow bored. Only then could they accept a new
> story for their lives. Move forward."
>> -Chuck Palahniuk, "Haunted"
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, joelle weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com<
> mailto:joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>>wrote:
>>> All I have is a "histology assistant" description I put together. It
>>> is mostly clerical, instrument up keep and other duties. My employer
>>> does not hire uncertified techs- due to CLIA license, grossing, FISH &
>>> molecular duties ( high complexity). I hope to be a clinical site
>>> eventually, and then they will have to complete their certification
>>> within one year -if they are hired on.
>>> If you think that will help, I can send it on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:39:12 -0500
>>>> From: delsuec <@t> gmail.com<mailto:delsuec <@t> gmail.com>
>>>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu<
> mailto:histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
>>>> Subject: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if anyone can share a job description for an
>>>> unregistered
>>> HT
>>>> position. I also need to know if unregistered HT's are allowed to
>>>> cut frozen sections. I know there is a limit to what they can do,
>>>> especially where IHC and special staining are concerned, but I
>>>> really don't know
>>> about
>>>> frozens, since it's a lot like regular microtomy, except for the H&E
>>>> staining of the slide. I also understand that facilities might have
>>>> different descriptions, but what I'm really looking for is what CAP
>>> allows
>>>> them to do.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>
>>>> Deloris Carter, HT(ASCP)
>>>> SMMC
>>>> Shawnee, KS
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