[Histonet] IHC Zinc Fixative supplier/source
koellingr <@t> comcast.net
koellingr <@t> comcast.net
Thu Oct 15 13:18:03 CDT 2009
Hi Gayle,
I've used this extensively. But never from BD. Was too simple to make in house and then we had control over tweaking it if needed. Made it up per the formula you wrote and with all your caveats and warnings with which I completely agree. We loved it for certain things. For instance, was NOT good on tissues that were loaded with digestive enzymes-like pancreas. Pancreatic tissue looked like road kill although islet of L cells looked and stained good. Although given the moniker of "fixative" it certainly isn't..in the classical sense of a fixative. And as you alluded to it is available in Europe. One of our post-docs worked with the company when in Europe. But expensive beyond reason. So we just made it.
Ray
Raymond Koelling
PhenoPath Labs
Seattle, WA
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Subject: [Histonet] IHC Zinc Fixative supplier/source
Concerning IHC zinc fixative supplier/source
FIRST, Z-Fix from Anatech is NOT the formalin free Beckstead Zinc fixative (BD Pharmingen) commonly used for rodent and human CD/leukocyte marker work.
Kathy wrote:
I am searching for a vendor to supply IHC Zinc fixative. Not zinc formalin. It's ALMOST like the BD Pharmingen IHC zinc fix, but contains Zinc acetate too. We do not want to make it up in house though....it contains calcium acetate, zinc acetate, zinc chloride and tris buffer. I have searched the 'net and all I garnered was a head ache, there are so many variations of zinc fixatives, and none are what we need. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!
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Kathy,
What you are looking for is the true, original formulation of the Beckstead Zinc Tris buffer (non-formalin) fixative. The BD Biosciences Zinc Fixative (Formalin Free) Cat# 552658 technical data sheet cites his publication, but the MSDS shows zinc acetate is not part of the reported toxic substances. If they are citing Beckstead, they are more than likely using his original formulation (see below) but to make sure this is absolutely correct, you should contact their technical services about this. They have zinc in the recipe from zinc chloride and maybe they have modified the formulation so that it works as well or better from the original without the zinc acetate. Making it up in house was not difficult when we tried the fixative.
Zinc Fixative (JB Fixative or ZSF)
0.1M Tris Buffer, pH 7.4
Tris Base -------------------------------- 12.1 g (TRIZMA)
1N HCL ----------------------------------- 81.5 ml
Distilled water -------------------------- 900 ml
Mix to dissolve. Adjust pH to 7.4
Zinc Fixative
Calcium Acetate ---------------------- 0.5 g
Zinc Acetate -------------------------- 5.0 g
Zinc Chloride -------------------------- 5.0 g
0.1M Tris Buffer made above ------ 1000 ml
Mix to dissolve. The final pH will be approximately 6.5-7.0. Do not readjust the pH, as this will cause the zinc to come out of solution. Store Zinc Fixative at room temperature. Fix tissues for 24 to 48 hours. Fixation longer than 48 hours may make the tissue brittle and difficult to cut.
As far as I know, there is no other company in the US that makes up this fixative - a unique one of a kind fixative not commonly used by many labs except maybe research facililites. I think it is available from sources in Europe, but can't be sure of exactly what they are selling from publications I have read. Sorting that out was not fun. Personally, I would trust the BD Bioscience Zinc fixative (formalin free) simply because they do cite Beckstead's publication. I know that Ray Koelling, now at Phenopath, has used this fixative in the past, and he may have purchased it from BD. Hopefully he is looking in and can address your problem. He has been CC'd with this message.
Good luck and hope your headache goes away -
Gayle M. Callis
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