[Histonet] HTL

[Kemlo Rogerson]

Some volunteer to stay 'behind the medics' as it is safe; some are kept
there kicking and screaming (I'm hoarse). Medics are medics; it is a
'gentlemen's club' but non-Path medics are finding their position eroded
by the Consultant Nurse and Consultant Physiotherapist. Pathologists are
strenously opposing the idea of a Consultant Biomedical Scientist but
bizzarely the Consultant Clinical Scientist is seen as OK. 
 

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Anne van
Binsbergen
Sent: 15 July 2009 09:01
To: Kemlo Rogerson
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Shea's
Subject: Re: [Histonet] HTL

well said!!
your statement: 'Only when we step from behind the skirts of the Medics
will the sun shine on us' deserves dissection (pardon the pun)

are we volutarily 'behind the medics"
or
are we conveniently 'kept' there by those same medics

medics=pathologists (some exceptions)

where i come from most of these 'medics' are running the (very
lucrative) private labs and the techs are kept 'lean and hungry' - they
are 'worker bees'' grateful for work and paid a pittance.

i once voiced my desire to take unpaid leave in order to study further
and was refused time off for this, on the basis that i would then cost
more to employ!!!

i have a 4 year diploma (now called a BTech degree) - i am licensed as a
Medical Technologist with Cell Path Speciality.
i am neither an HT or an HTL.
i have 30 years experience and have been supervising/managing AP labs
for over 15 years but because i dont have a degree i would most likely
have a hard time finding employment in the USA or Canada - your loss
guys.
its not what you call it its how you apply what you know - having a
degree does not make you a good tech.

flame away!!

AnnieinArabia (out of Africa)

2009/7/15 Kemlo Rogerson <Kemlo.Rogerson <@t> waht.swest.nhs.uk>

> Do you want the blunt truth?
>
> There's a perception, even within the other disciplines in Diagnostic 
> Labs, that BMS's in Histology (HistoTechs) are second rate Scientists.

> I know that's an inflammatory remark but I've battled with it for
years.
> Pharmacists, Physiotherapists, Ots, Audiologists and Speech Language 
> Therapists run Clinics treat Patients and are 'clinical'. The 
> perception is that 'scientists' are not clinical and before we get 
> appreciated for that we probably need to run Clinics ourselves but how

> do Histotechs/ BMS's achieve that? In the UK scientific staff are 
> slowly doing that with Anticoagulant Clinics, with advanced dissection

> and the reporting of cervical smears after achieving the appropriate 
> level of qualification.
>
> I'm hoping one day that the 'glass ceiling' will be taken off the Path

> Labs and that a scientist will, after obtaining his/ her degree, 
> Masters (or PhD), like the Clinical Scientists, obtain the MRCPath and

> then clinically lead a discipline. Only when we step from behind the 
> skirts of the Medics will the sun shine on us.
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> Does that help?
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> Kemlo Rogerson MSc MIBiol CBiol DMS CSci FIBMS (I tried).
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shea's
> Sent: 15 July 2009 04:13
> To: jaustin1967 <@t> gmail.com
> Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] HTL
>
> Michael,
> Ditto, very well stated. I too believe that our industry is under 
> appreciated. Many new grads of today find a two year degree demeaning 
> and wouldn't consider HT because of it. I don't understand how some 
> professions like pharmacy & physical therapy gain respect and grow to 
> create 5 yr, 6yr & 7yr programs. They are very well respected by the 
> MDs and Hospital administration and have nice salaries to show for it.
>
> Why hasn't our field flourished?
> Jan, BS, HTL
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Anne van Binsbergen (Hope)
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