[Histonet] Re: RINSING IN TAP WATER AFTER DECAL
Eric Mahoney
Eric.Mahoney <@t> cchmc.org
Tue May 6 12:12:43 CDT 2008
I have used Cal-EX by Fisher before. After decal. I ran my samples in
running tap water for 4 hours. I am decal. vertebral bone and my
sections and HE staining came out pretty well. I would not skip this
step.
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:13:35 -0400
From: "Jerry Helisek" <Jerry <@t> ralambusa.com>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: metal mesh gloves
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Helen,
I have a restaurant here in Durham, NC and we purchase mesh gloves at
our local Restaurant Supply Store, just do a google search or next time
you go into a "local" restaurant ask the owner/manager (the only reason
I emphasize "local" is that, "local" proprietors are more likely to
purchase locally rather than shop from their larger parent companies
designated suppliers...).
They are a must for cleaning/assembly of sharp equipment.
Good luck!
------------------------------------
Raymond A. Lamb, Inc
Jerry Helisek
VP North America
jerry <@t> ralambusa.com
5409 Lumley Road, Unit 102
Durham, North Carolina 27703
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Skype ID:jerryhelisek
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:12:25 -0400
From: Helen E Johnson <hej01 <@t> health.state.ny.us>
Subject: [Histonet] metal mesh gloves
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Hi Histonetters,
Can you please recommend a vendor that sells a good pair of metal
mesh
gloves.
Thanks. Helen Johnson
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Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:55:57 -0400
From: Pamela Marcum <pmarcum <@t> vet.upenn.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] Glenda Hood Please Call Me
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Hi All,
I am sorry but I need to contact Glenda Hood or have her contact
me. We have a microtome for her project.
Best Regards,
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University of Pennsylvania
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:56:02 -0400
From: Pamela Marcum <pmarcum <@t> vet.upenn.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] (no subject)
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Best Regards,
Pamela A Marcum
Manager, Histology Special Procedures
University of Pennsylvania
School of Veterinary Medicine
R.S. Reynolds Jr. CORL
New Bolton Center
382 West Street Road
Kennett Square, PA 19348
Phone - 610-925-6278
Fax - 610-925-8120
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:11:44 -0400
From: "Bonner, Janet" <Janet.Bonner <@t> FLHOSP.ORG>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: metal mesh gloves
To: "Jerry Helisek" <Jerry <@t> ralambusa.com>,
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OR...Lab Safety Supply.
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Subject: [Histonet] RE: metal mesh gloves
Helen,
I have a restaurant here in Durham, NC and we purchase mesh gloves at
our local Restaurant Supply Store, just do a google search or next time
you go into a "local" restaurant ask the owner/manager (the only reason
I emphasize "local" is that, "local" proprietors are more likely to
purchase locally rather than shop from their larger parent companies
designated suppliers...).
They are a must for cleaning/assembly of sharp equipment.
Good luck!
------------------------------------
Raymond A. Lamb, Inc
Jerry Helisek
VP North America
jerry <@t> ralambusa.com
5409 Lumley Road, Unit 102
Durham, North Carolina 27703
tel: 919.957.1964
fax: 919.957.1972
mobile: 919.264.7964
Skype ID:jerryhelisek
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:12:25 -0400
From: Helen E Johnson <hej01 <@t> health.state.ny.us>
Subject: [Histonet] metal mesh gloves
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Hi Histonetters,
Can you please recommend a vendor that sells a good pair of metal
mesh
gloves.
Thanks. Helen Johnson
(hej01 <@t> health.state.ny.us)
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:17:04 -0400
From: "Dave Johnson" <djohnson <@t> mercedesmedical.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: metal mesh gloves
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We carry them
Dave Johnson
Mercedes Medical
800-331-2716
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Janet
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:12 PM
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OR...Lab Safety Supply.
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Subject: [Histonet] RE: metal mesh gloves
I have a restaurant here in Durham, NC and we purchase mesh gloves at
our local Restaurant Supply Store, just do a google search or next time
you go into a "local" restaurant ask the owner/manager (the only reason
I emphasize "local" is that, "local" proprietors are more likely to
purchase locally rather than shop from their larger parent companies
designated suppliers...).
They are a must for cleaning/assembly of sharp equipment.
Raymond A. Lamb, Inc
Jerry Helisek
VP North America
jerry <@t> ralambusa.com
5409 Lumley Road, Unit 102
Durham, North Carolina 27703
tel: 919.957.1964
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:12:25 -0400
From: Helen E Johnson <hej01 <@t> health.state.ny.us>
Subject: [Histonet] metal mesh gloves
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Hi Histonetters,
Can you please recommend a vendor that sells a good pair of metal
mesh gloves.
Thanks. Helen Johnson
(hej01 <@t> health.state.ny.us)
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:40:47 -0400
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Subject: [Histonet] Cryostat to donate
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Does anyone have a working cryostat that they could donate to Doctors
Without Borders? I don't know details, but will find out if anyone could
help.
Thanks and happy Monday! j
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Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Histonet] California labs-have you moved recently?
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Hi all,
We moving soon and would sincerely appreciate any tips or warnings of
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:25:33 +1000
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Thanks!!
??
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:00:54 -0400
From: "karen adams" <kadamsplw <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] B-plus question
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Hello all....we are changing bone marrow fixative from formalin to
B-plus.
If we fix for the required time in B-plu and then process on the VIP w/
the
other specimens using formalin are there any effects on the tissue going
from B-plus to formalin??
Thank you in advance
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 06:15:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] B-plus question
To: karen adams <kadamsplw <@t> gmail.com>,
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No, because the tissue is supposed to be fixed already.
RenΘ J.
karen adams <kadamsplw <@t> gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all....we are changing bone marrow fixative from formalin to
B-plus.
If we fix for the required time in B-plu and then process on the VIP w/
the
other specimens using formalin are there any effects on the tissue going
from B-plus to formalin??
Thank you in advance
--
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Supervisor
Pathology Laboratories West
9303 Park West Blvd.
Knoxville, TN 37923
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Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 06:52:32 -0700
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Hi Karen,
I have been using the same sequence of reagents for several years with
great success. We routinely fix bone marrow cores for 3 hours in B-plus,
rinse in water, decalcify, rinse again, and put the cassette in with all
the other tissues for processing. B-plus contains formaldehyde anyway,
so your are not introducing a different reagent when you transfer them
to formalin during processing.
B-plus gives much better cytological detail than formalin. Nuclear
detail is crisper, granules are better preserved, hemosiderin is not
effected. CD-3, CD-20, kappa and lambda, etc. all work beautifully after
B-plus. It also has the advantage of not producing an fixation artefact
pigment like B-5 does. I think you will be happy with your decision to
change.
Paul Bradbury
Kamloops, Canada
karen adams wrote:
> Hello all....we are changing bone marrow fixative from formalin to
B-plus.
> If we fix for the required time in B-plu and then process on the VIP
w/ the
> other specimens using formalin are there any effects on the tissue
going
> from B-plus to formalin??
> Thank you in advance
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 07:24:37 -0700
From: "Linke_Noelle" <Linke_Noelle <@t> Allergan.com>
Subject: [Histonet] GLP question
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Hi everyone,
I have a question for all of the GLP compliant folks out there. How do
you handle recuts that you do prior to giving slides to the pathologist?
For example, you stain on Monday, look at your slides and find you are
missing something like the mammary gland. You recut and stain on
Tuesday....how do you document that? Do you keep your original slide
and archive it?
I thank you in advance for any help!
Noelle
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:39:17 -0500
From: "Mike Pence" <mpence <@t> grhs.net>
Subject: [Histonet] Proper Grossing Attire
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I would like to hear everyone's opinions on what the proper PPE is for
"grossing in" specimens. Two levels of grossing in are: 1) dictating
and submit specimen - limited to bisecting a punch bx and 2) dictating,
describing, cutting, taking selected sections - some judgment and
advanced training required ie. colons-placentas.
My question is: "Is gloves alone appropriate attire for the first level?
What do you wear when grossing at the second level?
You may choose to reply off line as to save yourself much "flaming" I
sure.
Thanks in advance,
Mike
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:13:32 +0100
From: "Colin Nixon" <c.nixon <@t> beatson.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: [Histonet] pan cytokeratin markers
To: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Can anyone recommend a good pan cytokeratin antibody for use on mouse
tissue for paraffin fixed embedded immunohistochemistry and if they can
what retrieval method/dilution etc that they use?
Thanks,
Colin
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 11:30:39 -0500
From: "Douglas D Deltour" <doug <@t> ppspath.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Goodbye and Thanks
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I wanted to thank all that participate on histonet and for making this
such
a valuable asset. I have enjoyed it very much. I will be departing my
current position on May 23rd. I will be taking a position with an IHC
company (technical side) that will have me in the sun of South Florida.
I
will be reduced to lurking histonet when I have the chance. Keep up the
great work and thanks for all that you do.
Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:21:54 -0700
From: "Fischer, R. B" <BFicher <@t> chomp.org>
Subject: [Histonet] RINSING IN TAP WATER AFTER DECAL
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We have been using "RDO" and "CAL-X" decal solutions for some time now.
After the specified times in the decal solutions, the specimens are
rinsed in running tap water for about 10 minutes before being placed
back in 10%NBF for routine processing. We were rinsing to get rid of the
nitric acid. My questions are (1) Is this rinse step necessary? If it
is, (2) How long is an adequate time for rinsing?(3) How are other labs
handling the specimen post decal, and before processing?
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:28:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Galina Deyneko <galinadeyneko <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: [Histonet] gross-section
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Dear Colleagues
Could you please advise the sources like manuals, textbooks or
websites for gross-sectioning/ sampling of the organs of big mammalians
( we work with rabbits, monkeys). I think human gross-sectioning
information also useful.
Thank you.
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